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作者 pneumo (超☆冒險蓋)
標題 [外絮] 人生困境如何成為GP2成功的養分
時間 Fri Apr 22 12:33:39 2022


來源: ESPN
網址: https://tinyurl.com/2p9c7ftd
How a lifelong struggle paved the way for Gary Payton II's success with the Golden State Warriors
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Since he was diagnosed with dyslexia in second grade, Payton has learned to adapt in the face of adversity. Two decades later, Payton has found a home ...

 

How a lifelong struggle paved the way for Gary Payton II's success with the
Golden State Warriors
人生困境如何成為Gary Payton II成功的養分

JUST SEVEN MONTHS ago, one of the most important role players on a club
desperate to return to its dynastic reign and the son of the legendary
Seattle SuperSonics guard Gary Payton, was preparing to apply for a desk job
in the team's video department.
就在七個月前,一個球隊裡面最重要的角色球員之一迫切的想回到球隊,這位西雅圖超
音速傳奇後衛Gary Payton之子,正準備要應徵球隊影像部門的辦公室工作。

Seven months ago.
就在七個月前。

Gary Payton II, 29, has had a basketball career full of rejection. He has
been cut from teams four times in six years and spent five years toiling in
the NBA's G League.
29歲的GP2,籃球生涯都是充滿被拒的情況,六年內被球隊裁掉過四次,五年在G-league
浪跡。

And he'd just been cut again.
然後那時他又被裁掉了。

Payton knew there was an opening in the Golden State Warriors' video
coordination department, so he approached assistant coach Jama Mahlalela.
GP2知道當時勇士的影像部門有開缺,所以他去找了助理教練Jama Mahlalela。

It was an opportunity, he thought, to still contribute and participate.

那時他認為這是個機會,可以繼續貢獻跟參與籃球。

"I was dead serious," Payton says. "If I get cut, I'm going to audition for
that job. ... I was just trying to stay around. I'd still be around the game,
I could still help, travel whatnot. And then figure it out from there."
「我那時可是很認真的,」GP2說。「若我被裁掉的話,我就會去應徵那份工作...我只是
想繼續待在這環境,我想待在籃球有關的地方,我還能幫得上忙的,隨時可以上路。然後
繼續往前行。」


But Mahlalela had other plans.
但是助理教練Mahlalela有不同的計劃。

"I just talked to him about the criteria for the video room: A willing
learner, someone who can get on the court still and play, whatever. And he's
like, 'I'll do that,'" Mahlalela says. "And I'm like, Gary, I'm not letting
you do that. There is no chance in the world you are going to do that. You
are playing for this team."
「我就跟他說了要在影像部門工作的條件:要願意學習,仍就可以上場打球這些的。然
後他就說,『我願意!』」Mahlalela說。「但是我回他,『Gary,我不會讓你去做的。
你絕對沒有機會去做影像部門的工作的,你是要為這球隊打球的。』」


Payton was ready to do what he'd always done: adapt.
GP2已經準備好了他一直在做的事:適應。

When he was in the second grade, Payton was diagnosed with dyslexia, a
learning disorder that affects 10% to 15% of the U.S. population. Those with
it often struggle with word recognition, spelling, reading comprehension,
language and visual processing.
當GP2二年級的時候被診斷有有閱讀障礙,這是種學習疾症,全美約有10%~15%人有這種
狀況。這些人在閱讀,拼字,了解辭意,語言跟影像認知會有問題。

After nearly two decades of learning to adapt in the face of adversity,
Payton was signed to Golden State's 15th and final roster spot four days
after his conversation with Mahlalela.
在經過二十多年適應並面對自己的疾病後,跟助教Mahlalela談完四天,GP2跟勇士簽約,
補上球員名單裡的最後一個位置。

He has finally found a home in the NBA and become one of the best defensive
guards in the sport.
他終於在NBA裡面找到家,成為籃球裡面最佳防守後衛之一。

WHEN THE THREE Payton kids were young, their mother, Monique, made them read
30 minutes each night. Gary's brother, Julian, and sister, Raquel, had no
problem completing the task. But Gary struggled and couldn't figure out why.
Monique constantly heard him mumbling to himself as he tried to get through
the pages.
GP2的媽媽Monique在他們小時候每晚會要他們念書半小時,GP2的弟弟Julian跟妹妹
Raquel都沒有問題,但是GP2一直都念的很痛苦,但是找不出原因。當GP2試著一頁頁的
念過去的時候,Monique一直都會聽到GP2在碎念。

"Speak up, speak clearly," she implored her son. But no matter how many times
she reminded him, Gary continued to stumble.
「講大聲點,念清楚點,」她鼓勵GP2。但是不管她提醒多少次,GP2一直都沒辦法。

When he was in second grade, his teacher approached Monique and suggested
that Gary be tested for dyslexia. At first, Monique was defensive. She didn't
want to think anything was wrong with her son, she says now.
當GP2二年級的時候,他的老師找了Monique並建議她應該帶GP2去檢查看看是不是有閱讀
障礙。起初她很抗拒,她不想認為自己的小孩有問題。

"I remember crying because I had been so hard on him," Monique says. "I
didn't realize he had a learning disability."
「我記得我因為那時候對他太嚴厲而哭過,」Monique說。「我那時並不知道他有學習
障礙。」

Gary struggled to read. His brain often swapped letters, particularly Ds and
Bs. When he was asked to read out loud in class, he tried to count ahead to
which paragraph he would be assigned, so he could practice ahead of time and
identify words he didn't know. He had a hard time learning the chronology of
things, like the order of the seasons.
GP2閱讀有問題,他的腦子常會把字調換,尤其是字母D跟B。當上課的時候被叫到要朗
讀的時候,他會先算好哪個段落他會被分配到,然後他就可以先練習,找出那些字他不
認得的。他尤其在學習有關時序年表的部分有困難,像是季節的順序之類的。


Two years after his diagnosis, the Payton family moved from Seattle to Los
Angeles. On the trip there, Monique saw her oldest son crying on the plane.
在診斷出閱讀障礙後兩年,GP2一家從西雅圖搬到了洛杉磯。在飛機上,Monique看到他
的大兒子哭了。

"He said, 'I don't want to be dumb,'" Monique says. "I'm like babe, you're
not dumb. You learn differently."
「他說,『我不想當笨蛋~~』」Monique說。「我回他,『寶貝~~你不是笨蛋,你只是
學習的方式跟別人不一樣而已。』」

Accepting this difference did not come easily to Gary, who says he struggled
academically.
對GP2來說接受這個"不一樣"很困難,他說他在學業上很掙扎。

"After I found out about it, I was more embarrassed to ask questions and
speak out in class because my classmates didn't know, and I didn't want to
hint to them that I had a disability," Gary says. "I just wasn't trying to be
different than everyone else."
「當我知道我有這問題後,我反而覺得問問題更不好意思,在教室更不敢說話,因為我
的同學們不知道我有這疾病。我不想讓他們知道我有障礙,我只是不想跟別人不一樣,」
GP2說。

Gary says he struggled to understand concepts when teachers explained them
verbally. He says he often approached them after class to ask follow-up
questions. Eventually, he learned to ask for the concepts to be written out
so he could see them.
GP2說對於老師用講的東西,他很難理解。他說他常常在下課後去問問題,後來,他了解
了他得要請他們把概念寫出來,所以他才能懂。

After their move to L.A., the Paytons enrolled Gary in an academic tutoring
program tailored to young kids with learning disabilities. Shortly
thereafter, they learned their son was a visual learner, common for those
with dyslexia. The news wasn't surprising -- Gary always had a knack for
picking up new hobbies after watching them a few times.
在搬來洛杉磯後,他們家把GP2送進了一個學習加強課程,專門是給有學習障礙的小朋
友的。很快他們就了解到,GP2是個靠視覺學習的小孩,這在學習障礙的小孩很常見。這
對Payton家不是新鮮事--GP2常常在看過一些事情幾次後很快就會上手。

"If you could just write it out and show me, I will get it," Gary remembers
telling his teachers.
「如果東西可以寫下來或者表演給我看的話,我就會懂,」GP2記得那時候是跟老師這
樣說。

He still does this today. When he needs to spell something, he has to write
it out, even if it's in the air, or he will ask Siri on his phone.
他現在也還是這樣,當他要拼寫一些事情的時候,他會寫出來,即使是在寫空氣字,或者
他會用Siri幫他。

"If you look at the phenomenology of visual learners versus auditory learners
and kinesthetic learners, the current understanding is that we all learn in
all ways, we just have preferences," says Dr. Francesco Dandekar, the
associate director of sports psychiatry at Stanford University. "And we also
have ways of compensating for potential deficits. So often when people say
they're visual learners, it's more that they have difficulty processing
auditory input ... so they'll gravitate toward things that they can see."
「若是去看靠視覺學習,跟聽覺學習或是動態學習,目前的概念是一般人可以從所有的
方面來學,只是我們會有偏好,」史丹佛大學運動心理學副教授Francesco Dandekar說。
「然後我們大家會找方式去克服某些障礙,所以很常會聽到有人說他們是視覺學習,那
比較像是在講他們對於聽覺方面的處理有困難...所以他們會傾向去看他們可以看得東
西。」

Gary and his mom, a former player herself, watched his dad's games together
-- over and over again. On his own, he'd watch other games and footage of
other players. He'd study them, picking up parts of their game he liked. To
this day, Gary says, he incorporates moves that he saw from the late 1990s
and early 2000s.
GP2他媽本身也是個球員,他們會一起看他爸的比賽--一遍又一遍。他自己的時候,他
會看其他球員的比賽跟精華,他會研究這些,找到那些比賽他喜歡的部分。直到今天,
GP2說他把那些動作融合到自己身上,那些大概是1990年代末到2000年初的。


"Watching basketball, I mean, you can see it," Gary says. "You can see what
works and what doesn't. It's a really big help. I think it's easier for me to
visualize something and then apply it to my game than the other way around. I
try to watch as much film as possible."
「看比賽,我的意思是,是可以看的到的,」GP2說。「可以看到什麼能成,什麼不能
成,那真的很有幫助。我認為把東西視覺化對我來說比較簡單,我可以把那些放進我的
籃球裡面,我盡可能的看很多的籃球影片。」


But his love for the game, and the preparation it requires, didn't come
naturally -- or easily.
但是他對籃球的熱愛,以及準備打籃球所需的技能,準備這一切並不是自然而然的--或者
說很容易的。

"I wanted to get away from the sport because of who my dad is, living up to
the hype, whatever," Payton says. "I just didn't want to deal with it."
「我那時想逃離籃球,因為我老爸的關係,大家會期待我跟他一樣,我不想面對這些,」
GP2說。

But by middle school, Payton decided to give it a try.
但是到中學的時候,GP2決定試試看。

"He was very lackadaisical," Monique says. "I'm like dude, we're dogs on the
court. You're either in or you're out. Are you playing or playing? Are you
serious?"
「他那時候很懶散,」GP2媽媽說。「我跟他講,我們都是場上的戰士,要嘛上場,要嘛
不幹,你到底要不要?你認真嗎?」

When Gary was a junior in high school, he decided to meet with Darrel Jordan,
a family friend and basketball coach who was working with Julian in the AAU
circuit. It was with Jordan that Gary's footwork and other fundamentals of
the game started to improve.
「當GP2高二的時候,他決定跟家庭好友同時也是AAU教練Darrel Jordan碰面,那也是
之後GP2的腳步以及其他籃球基本功開始變好的開始。

Gary received three scholarship offers from mid-major schools: Florida Gulf
Coast, Florida International and Florida A&M. But he didn't qualify
academically. The voices from his childhood, telling him he wasn't smart
enough, returned, filling him with doubt.
GP2後來收到三所不錯學校的獎學金機會,但是他的成績不夠格。那從小就出現在他腦
子裡的聲音,說他不夠聰明,又出現了;這讓他對自己充滿了懷疑。

From Westwind Preparatory Academy in Phoenix, Gary landed at Salt Lake
Community College. And by 2013, his sophomore season, he visited Saint Mary's
College in Moraga, California. The size of the school felt right, it was
close to his parents in Oakland and Saint Mary's was one of the top teams in
the West Coast Conference.
從鳳凰城的Westwind Preparatory Academy,到後來GP2去了鹽湖城社區大學。2013年,
GP2 10年級,他去看了了加州聖瑪莉大學,這大學大小剛好,而且離他的父母近,而且
這大學是西岸聯盟的頂尖球隊之一。


But his dad asked him to hold off on making a decision on Saint Mary's,
requesting that they visit Oregon State, where he was an All-Pac-10 selection
and both the Pac-10 Defensive Player of the Year and conference Freshman of
the Year in 1987. Former Beavers head coach Craig Robinson had made his own
pitch, a tantalizing one that made it hard for Gary to turn down: He could be
the difference-maker, Robinson said, to carry OSU back to national prominence.
但是GP2的爸爸要他先等等,要他們一起去奧勒岡州大看看,他爸是當時入選Pac-10球隊,
同時也是Pac-10年度防守球員,以及1987年分區年度新人。當時球隊教練Craig Robinson
提了一個很難拒絕的機會給GP2:他可以打主控,帶著奧勒岡州大重回全國頂尖行列。


It worked. Gary joined the Beavers in 2014 and played an integral part of
leading the Beavers to their first NCAA tournament appearance since 1990,
becoming the first player to be voted the Pac-12 Defensive Player of the Year
two times.
這計畫成功了,GP2在2014年加入奧勒岡州大,在球隊擔任重要位置,率領他們在1990
年後首次進入NCAA錦標賽,並且成為首位在Pac-12獲選兩次年度防守球員。

Yet, during all of these highs, the voice that filled him with doubt -- that
he wasn't good enough, that he wasn't smart enough, that he wasn't on any
draft boards, the one he'd spent more than a decade trying to silence --
remained.
不過,儘管有這些優秀時刻,那讓他對自己充滿懷疑的聲音--他不夠好,不夠聰明,他
沒有在選秀名單,那些他花了10多年想要平息的聲音--始終都在。

"I didn't know what I was going to be doing after school," he says. "I
[didn't] know what I'm going to do if basketball doesn't work."
「畢業後我不知道我要做什麼,若籃球這條路走不通,我真的不知道我要做什麼,」GP2
說。

AS THE FIRST quarter was drawing to a close in Monday's Game 2 against the
Denver Nuggets, the Warriors trailed by eight points.
星期一面對金塊Game 2的第一節末段,勇士落後8分。

Bones Hyland pulled up near the top of the key, looking to extend the
Nuggets' lead to double digits. After his shot clanked off the rim, reigning
MVP Nikola Jokic grabbed the rebound.
金塊Bones Hyland跳投,希望可以把領先分數變成2位數,但是這球打到了籃框,MVP
Nikola Jokic搶到了籃板。

As Jokic went in for the dunk, Payton -- giving up 90 pounds and nine inches
-- came over the top and blocked Jokic's shot clean. Otto Porter Jr.
corralled the loose ball, took it down the court and passed it to Andrew
Wiggins, who fed it back to Porter for a 3, cutting the Nuggets' lead to five
and forcing Denver coach Michael Malone to call a timeout. As Jokic headed to
the huddle, Payton passed him with a slap on the butt, to which Jokic did not
take kindly.
當Jokic準備灌籃的時候,GP2--比Jokic輕90磅,矮9吋--跳起來蓋了Jokic一個火鍋。
Otto Porter Jr拿到球,帶過半場傳給圍巾,後來又傳回給Porter投進了個三分球,把
金塊的領先縮小成五分,迫使總教練Malone喊出了暫停。當Jokic準備走回金塊休息區
時,GP2拍了Jokic的屁股,這對Jokic來說很不舒服。


Payton headed to the bench and didn't look back as Stephen Curry restrained
the upset center, who is no stranger to meeting Payton at the rim.
GP2則是回到板凳區,沒有看到咖哩拉住了這位生氣的大個,這大個子對於在籃框附近
碰到GP2並不陌生。

In a mid-February game, Jokic caught the ball up high, this time outside the
key. With less than five minutes remaining in the first half, he turned and
faced a familiar foe: Payton.
在二月中的一場比賽,Jokic在高位拿到球。上半場剩下不到五分鐘,他轉身看到一個
熟悉的臉:GP2。

影片: https://youtu.be/Vv7pOJ0DBxc

Trying to back him down, Jokic instead turned to attempt his patented
turnaround, one-legged fadeaway.
Jokic嘗試要吃掉GP2,他轉身然後要用他的招牌單腳後仰投籃。

But as he rose, there was Payton, who matched the timing of the rise -- and
then the ball -- and swatted it away.
但是當Jokic跳起來的時候,GP2也在那邊,抓準時間,把球給拍掉。

Payton's ability to slow Jokic is no coincidence.
GP2讓Jokic慢下來的能力並不是偶然。

"Film doesn't lie," Payton says.
「影片是不會說謊的,」GP2說。

Jokic has all but mastered spinning off defenders -- a move that has become
foundational to his offensive repertoire. But through the hours of film
Payton and Mahlalela watched, they discovered how Payton's size could throw
Jokic off of his spin. It's quite simple, they realized: it would present
Jokic with a defense he rarely sees and doesn't have to fight through very
often.
Jokic對於轉身晃掉防守者非常厲害--這已經成為Jokic攻擊手段的基本動作。但是GP2跟
Mahlalela看過了數小時的影片後,他們發現如何讓GP2的體型去讓Jokic的轉身失去重
心。那很簡單,就是:就是讓Jokic面對一個他很少看到的防守,然後不需要太多的對
抗。

"The leverage he normally uses is against much bigger players," Mahlalela
says. "He has a completely different center of gravity with Gary guarding
him. It's all about learning and understanding how the game works. And
knowing the players and knowing how he fits into the team really makes a
difference."
「他通常會拿那些來對抗大個子,」Mahlalela說。「當GP2守他的時候,他得要有完全
不同的重心。一切都跟如何去學習跟了解比賽有關,去研究球員,並了解自己怎樣融入
球隊真的會有很大的影響。」


Ask almost anyone and they will tell you what makes Payton such a special
player is his basketball IQ, something he has developed his entire life by
the unique way he studies the game.
若是去問任何一個人,他們都會說GP2獨特的地方是他的球商,這是他一直以來都在用他
獨特方式去研究比賽所得來的。

"In dyslexia, there's no link to IQ," Dr. Dandekar says. "It's just something
that your brain has a little more trouble processing. There's this
misconception that success means you do everything well. Success is actually
a lot more about understanding what you do well, understanding what you don't
do as well, playing to your strengths and finding ways to help yourself in
things that you're not as strong at."
「閱讀障礙跟IQ沒有關係,」Dandekar博士說。「那只是腦子在處理訊息上有些困難,
大家都有個錯誤的觀念,認為成功就是每件事情都會做得好;成功應該是了解自己什麼
做得好,了解自己什麼做得差,然後在強項上面努力,然後找到方式幫助自己去處理自
己不是很強的部份。」


Payton has finally found success in the NBA, on a Warriors team that has a
commanding 2-0 lead over Jokic and the Nuggets.
GP2終於在聯盟裡找到成功的方式,在勇士隊,目前2-0領先金塊。

"They let me be me," Payton says.
「他們讓我做自己,」GP2說。

Seven months ago, he was preparing for yet another rejection, another
instance where the lifelong whispers of doubt would again fill his mind. He
had no idea if he'd be filling an opening in the Warriors' lineup, or one in
the club's video coordination department.
七個月前,他準備著要接受另外一次的失敗,另外一個他一直有個聲音讓他對自己充滿疑
問的狀況發生。他不知道他是會在勇士球隊名單上,或者他會不會錄取勇士的影像部門。

"He knows his path, his journey has been riddled with adversity," Warriors

coach Steve Kerr says. "He's been released so many times. It's just him
preparing for whatever is next. But he played so well for us, that was never
going to be a possibility."
「他知道他的路該怎麼走,他一路上充滿艱辛,」勇士總教練Kerr說。「他被釋出過很多
次,他就是繼續準備接下來的路。但是他現在在我們球隊打得很好,所以被釋出的狀況是
不可能會發生的了。」


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tigertiger  : 他這叫困境  那海外的籃球員是地獄嗎1F 04/22 12:34
yuanmi1283  : 困境是比較級2F 04/22 12:36
yuanmi1283  : 麥安內
darren2586  : 先推GP24F 04/22 12:36
dream6789   : 推翻譯5F 04/22 12:37
ptt821105   : 推GPII6F 04/22 12:37
fragment007 : 推版主 推小手套7F 04/22 12:37
majohnsha   : 球星家庭長大的還困境8F 04/22 12:38
www2967     : 很多業餘還要找兼差不然生活費不夠@@9F 04/22 12:38
c22501656   : 貧民窟出生的人:10F 04/22 12:38
MK47        : 戴勝益也說他辛苦借錢才能創意11F 04/22 12:40
fishinthesky: GP2他媽本身也是個球員12F 04/22 12:43
Yao1218     : 推GPII13F 04/22 12:43
PttDreaming : 好文推14F 04/22 12:44
sezna       : 我爸是手套,吹捧的有點虛15F 04/22 12:45
nwojessy    : 心裡的困境 生活一點都不困吧16F 04/22 12:45
spurs2120   : 推文充分表現了台灣人狹隘的視角,球星家庭跟他學習17F 04/22 12:45
sisitai     : 謝謝翻譯18F 04/22 12:45
spurs2120   : 障礙有什麼關係?球星家庭就不能有煩惱有挫折?19F 04/22 12:46
spurs2120   : 這篇文章是有說他抱怨自己生活困苦嗎?
knight714   : 很多人都覺得有錢就是快樂 有錢就不能有困境吧21F 04/22 12:46
knight714   : 阿大家不是又很愛抱怨自己的生活工作等等的,怎麼
knight714   : 不把自己拿去跟非洲小孩比
PttDreaming : 有些奴才就只會看錢的可憐性格24F 04/22 12:49
ahinetn123  : 推好文25F 04/22 12:50
darren2586  : 跟硬要酸的計較什麼,順便再推感謝翻譯26F 04/22 12:50
laputaca    : 真的很勵志,勇士也真的很會養!27F 04/22 12:52
dusted      : 這篇推文就有很多人有點障礙吧28F 04/22 12:52
Qorqios     : 哦@ @29F 04/22 12:52
gidens      : 勵志30F 04/22 12:53
tonglicomecs: 困境就是在巨大光環下還要被質疑,然後還真的一度31F 04/22 12:54
tonglicomecs: 是被放棄的球員,靠著拼勁努力,終於有了發揮的機
tonglicomecs: 會,這還不困境,家裡窮,但從小就是天之驕子這才
tonglicomecs: 困境?
leutk       : 你爸是全世界知名的名人堂球星 你名字跟他一樣 你35F 04/22 12:55
leutk       : 有閱讀障礙 你被各種球隊刷掉 這就是他媽的困境阿
leutk       :  如果你本來是個無人知曉的魯蛇 你至少是個快快樂
leutk       : 樂的魯蛇 不會有人對你有期望
JacobK      : 好文推39F 04/22 12:56
ccjack310424: 推40F 04/22 12:56
xru03       : 推41F 04/22 12:56
tphua       : 蠻勵志,感謝分享42F 04/22 12:57
wishxuso    : 推小手套 其實也不是勇士會養 是在勇士找到定位了43F 04/22 12:57
tailsean    : 推推推44F 04/22 12:57
korgh413    : 推GP2   感動45F 04/22 12:58
openeyes222 : 今日4/4 100%46F 04/22 12:58
bluesophia  : 勵志,小手套很棒47F 04/22 12:59
nick1628    : 差點消失在聯盟48F 04/22 13:00
WLR         : 勵志49F 04/22 13:00
Kidd0502    : 為他感到高興 再沒打出來可能就消失了吧50F 04/22 13:01
Vincent233  : 一堆人以為只有窮是困境51F 04/22 13:01
AWSMD       : 能從小聯盟爬上來真的很不簡單52F 04/22 13:01
conniemywife: 這樣的家庭對他正向幫助大於什麼外界壓力啦53F 04/22 13:01
td789456123 : 他有他的困境,你也有你的啊54F 04/22 13:02
tristan13   : 原來他有這種天生疾病 真是不簡單的人生55F 04/22 13:02
babyalley   : 推個56F 04/22 13:03
drcula      : 真的勵志,勇士會用會養,讓他可以在NBA發光發熱57F 04/22 13:03
wuman0716   : 好文推推58F 04/22 13:03
yayiisme    : 太感動了,努力的成果終於被看見並得以發揮59F 04/22 13:04
RedLiam     : 推推60F 04/22 13:06
zold        : 今天表現很棒 !!61F 04/22 13:06
iwinlottery : 一生挫折62F 04/22 13:07
Alicia00    : 推推63F 04/22 13:07
joshnash    : 暖文推 不過老爸還是有靠關係推一把啦64F 04/22 13:08
curlyreed55 : 好文推65F 04/22 13:08
coiico      : 這篇推文展現了一樓發言對鄉民的影響力66F 04/22 13:09
yoyo99931   : 推爆67F 04/22 13:09
KThompson   : 他能打出來很感人好嗎?多少在他處境的都放棄了,68F 04/22 13:09
KThompson   : 結果還被鍵盤俠說這不算困境呵呵
huaiken     : 當一個名人之後 怎麼會算困境?70F 04/22 13:11
haries      : 蠻勵志的啊71F 04/22 13:11
frank901212 : 好感動72F 04/22 13:11
huaiken     : 看看小李之前說的 你至少都還有錢跟家庭73F 04/22 13:11
huaiken     : 真是困難阿
LA8221      : 表面上看星二代是很棒的人生,但人生不是只有這些,75F 04/22 13:12
coiico      : 有閱讀障礙的不只是GP276F 04/22 13:12
yoyozone    : 推小手套77F 04/22 13:12
NuRaymond   : 爸爸是GP 困境?78F 04/22 13:12
LA8221      : 成就、自我肯定同樣重要79F 04/22 13:12
canlest     : 推版主80F 04/22 13:13
rukawa28    : 酸酸見勇心喜,就是酸wwww81F 04/22 13:13
ayumi001    : 笑死這篇推文真的一堆人有障礙XDDD82F 04/22 13:13
canlest     : 如果他都決定放棄上場去應徵影像工作 當然算困境啊83F 04/22 13:13
qqwwpp      : 推小手套84F 04/22 13:14
ANava       : 我爸是NBA球星 我的一生充滿挫折 wwwwwww85F 04/22 13:15
akko76815   : 正因爸爸是GP  別人對他的期望有多少可想而知86F 04/22 13:16
spurs2120   : 真的一堆人有障礙,有夠慘87F 04/22 13:17
xjapan329   : 推88F 04/22 13:17
vaude       : [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3bpM-3Qk9yU[/url]89F 04/22 13:18
LA8221      : 推文人生只有金錢90F 04/22 13:18
JMashburn   : 靠爸的好意思...91F 04/22 13:18
vaude       : 笑死 這支要不是在勇士可以吹成這樣 挑釁Joker92F 04/22 13:19
RIVERWIND   : 應該是看標題就推文吧 我看標題也在想這種人有什麼93F 04/22 13:19
RIVERWIND   : 困境 看內文才知道他有學習障礙
zxcv3147    : 只是沒辦法上NBA就算人生困境?95F 04/22 13:20
your1225    : 很勵志啊 恭喜小手套在勇士站穩NBA舞台96F 04/22 13:22
mrtt2345    : 一堆魯蛇總愛幫自己的失敗找理由 然後想辦法淡化別97F 04/22 13:22
mrtt2345    : 人的成就。頗ㄏ
huaiken     : 很棒啊 但要說人生困境 這跟一堆人比真的還好99F 04/22 13:22
KeMBaWallKer: 好文100F 04/22 13:22
huaiken     : 你看喬丹他兒子沒打球 也是被酸 所以他會出來說困境101F 04/22 13:22
huaiken     : 或是Broony  出來講這個  你看會不會好笑
Beltran     : 這篇閱讀障礙比gp2嚴重的好像很多103F 04/22 13:23
KeMBaWallKer: 困境還有定義喔笑死,只有非洲難民可以叫困境104F 04/22 13:24
spurs2120   : 什麼事情都要「跟一堆人比也還好」的話,鄉民最好都105F 04/22 13:24
spurs2120   : 不要抱怨生活中的任何事情
spurs2120   : 你在抱怨父母抱怨老闆抱怨政府抱怨天氣抱怨通膨的時
barry70490  : 如果靠爸能蓋到小丑一球 我願意108F 04/22 13:25
spurs2120   : 候,有沒有想過跟一堆人比也還好?笑死109F 04/22 13:25
Angel0724   : 推文真的一堆仇富 笑死110F 04/22 13:26
LA8221      : 就不要換你遇到困境,結果別人對你說,你怎麼不想想111F 04/22 13:26
LA8221      : 路邊乞丐?
tomlee1130  : 鄉民跟非洲貧民比也都超好的阿,你人生有啥困境XDDD113F 04/22 13:27
bestteam    : 富二代的人生困境114F 04/22 13:27
ANava       : 閱讀障礙又怎樣 家裡有錢 他不工作也不會餓死 啥屁115F 04/22 13:28
jack0520    : 對一個籃球員一直被釋出不是困境喔?硬要拿不是NBA等116F 04/22 13:28
ANava       : 人生困境117F 04/22 13:28
jack0520    : 級的來比是有多反社會阿118F 04/22 13:29
willy963    : 推GP2一直努力著、準備著,恭喜找到讓自己綻放的地119F 04/22 13:29
spurs2120   : 看到樓上上的推文我現在相信閱讀障礙不會怎樣了120F 04/22 13:30
spurs2120   : 有閱讀障礙一樣可以上網噴人,哪有差
ahinetn123  : 酸民整天抱怨怎不想想非洲小孩跟上海人 該知足了122F 04/22 13:30
ThunderLord : 故事真的很不錯123F 04/22 13:30
crazy1485   : 真正的勇士124F 04/22 13:31
coco543961  : 看到勝利組談這些 就只能想到小李之前談壓力的那些125F 04/22 13:33
batis       : 推GP2 感謝翻譯126F 04/22 13:34
huaiken     : 他出來講就跟Bronny出來講一樣127F 04/22 13:34
NoPush      : 發文1分鐘就可以推的,我是不太相信看了什麼內文啦128F 04/22 13:36
yqppe       : 笑死 一堆人很嫉妒129F 04/22 13:37
FragrantJo  : 好文推 勵志!130F 04/22 13:37
fishinthesky: 一堆人好扭曲啊 不是非洲難民都沒資格談困境131F 04/22 13:40
s901133124  : 推翻譯132F 04/22 13:40
honway      : 超勵志,有洋蔥133F 04/22 13:40
characterlu : 推文完美演繹了什麼是閱讀障礙134F 04/22 13:40
kevenchia   : 就球員故事 又一堆人出來發作了135F 04/22 13:40
sexygnome   : 閱讀障礙真的是天生的,GPII走出來了,有些人還沒136F 04/22 13:40
poopoo50000 : 紅明顯 有一說一 那球小丑後仰 GP2左手壓在他身上137F 04/22 13:42
poopoo50000 : 只是裁判沒吹而已
stoke4096   : 唯一的問題是勇士沒辦法再簽他?要爆了139F 04/22 13:43
ocis        : 關鍵是Mahlalela能看出球員優點吧140F 04/22 13:43
LaoDa5815566: 只有窮是真困境141F 04/22 13:43
drcula      : 還好吧,勇士要簽搞不好小中產就能簽他了,大帥比較難142F 04/22 13:44
Oskar       : GP2, 加油!143F 04/22 13:44
chouyuu     : 也是家境不錯才能克服閱讀障礙吧 專門學校學費肯定144F 04/22 13:48
chouyuu     : 不便宜
yqppe       : 只有窮是真困境那我相信能上ptt的各位都沒有困境棒146F 04/22 13:49
drcula      : 認真說,搞不好勇士開個2年基本薪的約,GP2都友情簽147F 04/22 13:50
wayne0215   : 多次的失敗跟父親名聲的比較應該是他的心魔,以前看148F 04/22 13:52
wayne0215   : 過他跟手套練習的影片,動作不順暢還打不贏老手套,
wayne0215   : 看來現在是逐漸克服了,為他感到高興
bejay1022   : 感動!151F 04/22 14:00
gchee       : 溫馨152F 04/22 14:01
crusoe      : 不管是不是困境,我還是喜歡GP2打球態度153F 04/22 14:02
nancy0803   : 而且他在場上真的很拼,看得出來很珍惜每一次上場154F 04/22 14:02
nancy0803   : 機會,這種球員很難不愛
crusoe      : GP2是個善良的好孩子156F 04/22 14:02
crusoe      : 「阿你爸不是手套?那你怎麼打那麼__?」
mew14       : 看推文就知道誰是魯蛇,呵呵158F 04/22 14:05
hiarpu      : 推159F 04/22 14:08
YCkuku      : 笑死一堆人窮怕了超排富160F 04/22 14:12
shooooooboom: 靠視覺! 拷貝忍者卡卡西!161F 04/22 14:12
ghostxx     : 推文完美體現何謂障礙,這樣一比GP2真不算什麼162F 04/22 14:15
phhiph973973: 推GP2163F 04/22 14:15
GyroZep     : 屁孩164F 04/22 14:24
robinson    : 不是只有窮才是困境 有錢也要他願意努力才能克服165F 04/22 14:27
kaze1225    : 推166F 04/22 14:30
ppoll2      : 真困167F 04/22 14:39
ksk0516     : 站著說話不腰疼168F 04/22 14:41
darren2586  : 你們躺著噓文也沒看你們腰疼過169F 04/22 14:42
Giovinazzi99: GP2 engine170F 04/22 14:50
hydroallen  : 前鋒前面推文是在崩潰什麼? 是也閱讀障礙嗎?171F 04/22 14:51
bluesix4722 : 看到GP2蓋火鍋就是爽172F 04/22 14:52
aska521     : 連下一餐在哪的貧民窟的表示...173F 04/22 14:56
BIGBBB      : 笑死 釣出一堆自卑的174F 04/22 14:58
oadas       : 閱讀比賽很可以175F 04/22 15:03
whhw        : 推176F 04/22 15:04
nashQ       : 有些困境是不管你擁有什麼的,能撐過的只有你自己177F 04/22 15:05
ning456456  : 10%好多哦178F 04/22 15:05
iamczc      : GP2是我最喜歡的勇士球員前五179F 04/22 15:06
macchiatorei: 推翻譯,小手套終於在勇士找到了家180F 04/22 15:07
playerunknow: 先推再慢慢看181F 04/22 15:18
playerunknow: 我超喜歡這角色球員
hentai250   : 推183F 04/22 15:19
hank77629   : gp2超帥184F 04/22 15:25
ATand       : GP2如果有嘴綠的身形就可以繼承衣缽了185F 04/22 15:32
monkey6     : 好多眼紅仔,哈哈哈哈186F 04/22 15:33
mqhung      : GP2打球的態度真的是讓人感動187F 04/22 15:38
circleli    : 推小手套GP2188F 04/22 15:39
vasia       : 很感人的故事189F 04/22 15:56
vasia       : 一想到他一身絕世武功落的只能去應徵影像分析,到後
vasia       : 來站穩NBA證明自己是世界上防守最強的後衛之一
kizo        : GP2籃下放球手感極佳 不大會涮鍋,籃下放球比我柯192F 04/22 16:01
kizo        : 還穩,我勇總是能讓平凡的人變的不平凡,怎麼能不
kizo        : 愛這支球隊!
kizo        : *還有無敵黏的防守
ksk0516     : 金州勝文充滿皺褶196F 04/22 16:06
Tassadar250 : 推197F 04/22 16:13
shawncarter : 他在聯盟浮沉多年 終於有地方打球 也算是克服各種198F 04/22 16:20
shawncarter : 困難很厲害了吧
tailsean    : 借轉勇板~感謝板主!!200F 04/22 16:25
tailsean:轉錄至看板 G-S-WARRIORS                                04/22 16:25
palapalanhu : 推201F 04/22 16:26
f77928      : 補到GP2真的超棒202F 04/22 16:33
miens       : 推GPII !!!203F 04/22 16:51
mark0204    :204F 04/22 17:02
allyourshit : 龜龜:湖人也說要我做自己 根本是騙子!205F 04/22 17:03
SureHappy   : 推翻譯 喜歡這樣的文章206F 04/22 17:11
Erishcross  : 開個長約給他吧207F 04/22 17:21
islandant   : 推 很認真的好球員208F 04/22 17:29
jerry761031 : 勵志!希望他打的長長久久209F 04/22 17:40
tapiola     : 困境就是你不去突破的話,就永遠卡在那裡。210F 04/22 17:49
tapiola     : 覺得"別人的條件都比我優渥"也是一種困境
s128222582  : 這真的稱不上是困境 他只是很願意努力而已212F 04/22 18:03
s128222582  : 我真的覺得小李曾經講過的話才是至理名言
s128222582  : 這跟一個成功的名門之後 富二代說自己很辛苦 創業好
s128222582  : 幾次都失敗 終於成功 是一樣意思
sorrylove510: 推216F 04/22 18:11
s128222582  : 你也可以跟他一樣努力 但你背後有沒有支持 有沒有217F 04/22 18:12
s128222582  : 資本給你揮霍 那又是另一回事
dragon2000  : 家教很好的小孩219F 04/22 18:21
EX37        : 推  s128222582220F 04/22 18:32
spurs2120   : 能不能跟他一樣努力跟他有沒有困境也是兩回事221F 04/22 18:44
spurs2120   : 貧窮的人很辛苦不代表富有的人就沒資格辛苦,推文真
spurs2120   : 的一堆閱讀障礙耶,GP2家可能很有錢可能可以在籃球
spurs2120   : 上給他很多資源,但這些讓他打進NBA很輕鬆嗎?
spurs2120   : 這些能讓他的閱讀障礙消失嗎?在講風涼話前動動腦子
spurs2120   : 什麼叫做「只是很願意努力而已」,不用包裝自己仇富
spurs2120   : 先思考一下打進NBA需要什麼條件再來舉富二代例子啦
dream6789   : 請問有Lillard之前的至理名言文章可以分享嗎?謝謝228F 04/22 18:51
odaaaaa     : 他的最大困境應該是他的名字吧229F 04/22 18:57
moods       : Lillard你在這邊問至理名言 肯定是那個"我跟咖哩.."230F 04/22 18:58
OneCell     : 推231F 04/22 19:10
drcula      : 不說別的,開季curry和嘴綠還有要求簽老將不是他232F 04/22 19:13
Strasburg   : 這篇其實是醫學科普233F 04/22 19:13
drcula      : 他真的是靠努力和拼勁得到全隊的肯定234F 04/22 19:13
ccc101419   : 勵志235F 04/22 19:26
biggs       : 笑死,一堆人閱讀能力還不如GP2,一堆人大概以為有236F 04/22 19:57
biggs       : 錢和有名氣就不會有困境
QVQ9487     : 相見恨晚238F 04/22 20:19
pc0501      : 有錢有名氣就可以在NBA生存??那郭台銘的兒子一定239F 04/22 20:20
pc0501      : 可以打NBA?一堆人邏輯死去ㄟ
snow1212    : 推一個勵志241F 04/22 21:00
gto731216   : 推242F 04/22 21:13
ebok        : 推243F 04/22 21:14
FengQQ      : 看得好感動QQ  加油手套二世!244F 04/22 21:20
karmel      : 他防守真的很強245F 04/22 21:49
jickey      : 勇士真的找到他的說明書246F 04/22 21:52
notgoodcow  : 防守夠好 身體素質也夠 真的是勇士完美替補247F 04/22 22:19

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