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作者 標題 [外絮] 各名宿心目中的GOAT
時間 Sat Jan 14 12:47:35 2017
原始文章出處 : http://tinyurl.com/zsgn8ga
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偶然看到這篇一年多前的文章.
我們在網上搜到的GOAT 大多數都是球迷票選, 球評票選或新聞網自己選的.
很少有去整理各名宿心目中的GOAT,
作者很貼心的附上影片連結或原始報導出處.
內文太長我就不全翻了, 以下就名單列出來跟補一下(括弧)我所知道的更新或錯誤.
1.) Michael Jordan – Himself (Jordan)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTMf_UHxdY0
(作者扭曲了意思, MJ影片一開始就說GOAT是個愚蠢話題,
影片裡頭他比較的是最偉大的冠軍, 而非GOAT.
MJ有過多次對外發言認為不同時代的球員無法同時競爭,
GOAT在任何人身上都不適用.)
2.) Bird – Probably Jordan
http://tinyurl.com/jx5wsx3
1985年: Bird 比喻MJ為有史以來最強的新秀
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
http://tinyurl.com/juv445q
NBA: 10 questions with Larry Bird | Sports | GMA News Online
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After avoiding questions since his arrival in Manila, Monday, Celtics legend and Indiana Pacers president of basketball operations Larry Bird finally ...
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3.) Magic Johnson – Jordan
https://youtu.be/u69SCU79_O0
Is Michael Jordan The Greatest Ever? Magic Johnson, Charles Barkley, Danny Ainge, Kenny Smith... - YouTube A Jordan analysis by a couple of NBA greats and Kenny Smith. Is Jordan the greatest of all time? As someone who saw him play, not even at his prime, because ...
4.) Bill Russell – Jordan
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
5.) Oscar Robertson - 沒選
http://tinyurl.com/zj5ld65
Oscar Robertson: Jordan is not greatest ever | NBA | Sporting News
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Sure, Michael Jordan was a great player, but the greatest ever? Not so, says Oscar Robertson. ...
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Does not think Jordan was the greatest.
6.) Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - 沒選
http://tinyurl.com/jz5c4zb
Kareem says Oscar Robertson better than Jordan or LeBron | ProBasketballTalk
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While most current NBA fans give Michael Jordan the nod in the hypothetical “best player ever” competition, but a lot of that is simply due to timing ...
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大O > MJ 和 LBJ
張伯倫 = 歷史最佳得分手
7.) Isiah Thomas – Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
http://tinyurl.com/zz2rmze
最近變成了Jabbar.
MJ主宰了90年代, 但是80才是黃金時代, Jabbar同時主宰了70跟80.
8.) Karl Malone – Wilt Chamberlain.
http://tinyurl.com/hc6t53f
MJ not Malone's pick for all-time best - Chicago Bulls Blog- ESPN
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Karl Malone didn't pick Michael Jordan as his greatest all-time player. ...
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9.) John Stockton - 沒選
https://youtu.be/ZlWnTo5ca3o
ESPN First Take | John Stockton COMPARES LeBron James to Michael Jordan - YouTube Stephen A. Smith, Skip Bayless and John Stockton discuss the current state of the NBA aswell as express their opinions on Derrick Rose and Michael Jordan vs ...
10.) Charles Barkley – Jordan
唯一同時是得分跟防守端的王者.
https://youtu.be/u69SCU79_O0
Is Michael Jordan The Greatest Ever? Magic Johnson, Charles Barkley, Danny Ainge, Kenny Smith... - YouTube A Jordan analysis by a couple of NBA greats and Kenny Smith. Is Jordan the greatest of all time? As someone who saw him play, not even at his prime, because ...
11.) Elgin Baylor – Jordan
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
12.) Bob Cousy – Jordan
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
我跳起來最高只到藍下, 他跳起來最高點已經飛在籃板上了.
13.) Shaquille O’Neal – Jordan
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
(最近幾年改口認為GOAT是Dr. J
http://tinyurl.com/hzp9gu4 )
Shaquille O’Neal thinks Julius Erving was the greatest basketball player ever | For The Win Exciting? Yes. Greatest ever? No. ...
14.) Julius Erving, Dr. J – Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
https://youtu.be/JJn5MEZ_zUg
15.) Jerry West – Jordan
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
他是現代的Babe Ruth.
16.) Scottie Pippen – Jordan
http://tinyurl.com/68hllae
17.) Bill Walton – Kareem Abdul Jabbar
http://tinyurl.com/gu4onwm
他是我對位過的最強球員.
Jabbar > Magic, Bird , Jordan.
他是我前進的動力, 但無論我作出多少努力, 他都會在我面前得50分.
又會傳球又會得分又會防守.
18.) Hakeem Olajuwon – Probably Jordan.
http://tinyurl.com/h5clxgg
LBJ是最偉大之一, 但是 MJ > LBJ.
19.) Bob Pettit – Bill Russell
http://tinyurl.com/gqjjke5
The Q&A: At 80, Pettit Reflects On Wilt, Russell, Cousy And Life Outside The NBA « NBA.com | Hang Time Blog Bob Pettit wasn't sure what to call this date: Dec. 12, 2012. Take the short version – 12/12/12 – and it looks like a triple-double. Or a triple-dozen ...
他有最強的得勝慾望, 他的防守太可怕了.
人們都說他是所有人生勝利組中的人生勝利組,
那不如就改稱他為GOAT吧. 因為打球就是要勝利.
20.) George Gervin – Kareem Abdul-Jabbar
沒來源, 但是作者看過影片
21.) Ricky Barry – Maybe Wilt Chamberlain.
http://tinyurl.com/gwvc4l3
CNN/SI - Michael Jordan Retires - Praise from his peers - Monday February 01, 1999 03:52 PM Most of the 50 greatest players in NBA history agree that MJ stands alone, the best to ever step on the court ...
大家都說他是GOAT. 但是不同位置無法比較, 他是我見過的最佳雙能衛.
http://tinyurl.com/hg46f8l
Barry: PED’s Wouldn’t Be That Helpful In Basketball « CBS Pittsburgh
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Basketball Hall of Famer Rick Barry talked about PED use in pro sports with Starkey, Miller and Mueller. ...
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他是有史以來最棒的大個子球員. 有了大個子, 你就能奪得勝利.
22.) Walt Frazier – Wilt Chamberlain
http://tinyurl.com/gwkhnbw
Walt Frazier says Wilt Chamberlain is GOAT | ProBasketballTalk
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Jordan is not on the top of his list. ...
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23.) Wilt Chamberlain – Meadowlark Lemon (哈林籃球隊傳奇)
http://tinyurl.com/y9um4nj
Meadowlark Lemon > Dr. J 和 MJ
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推 : 大帥的答案真特別2F 01/14 12:49
推 : Jordan第一，Jabbar第二基本上是板上釘釘的事了3F 01/14 12:50
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→ : 的實力
→ : 天鉤獎項史上第三多，可是以一哥身分帶隊的冠軍就只
→ : 有71跟80那兩個
→ : 82那冠軍看不太出是他還是魔術當球隊一哥
→ : 所以天鉤的第二其實也沒那麼穩，但最差也是第三，多
→ : 輸給羅素這樣子。
→ : 竟有無親自交手是挺關鍵的，可以反映數字上看不到
→ : 的實力
→ : 天鉤獎項史上第三多，可是以一哥身分帶隊的冠軍就只
→ : 有71跟80那兩個
→ : 82那冠軍看不太出是他還是魔術當球隊一哥
→ : 所以天鉤的第二其實也沒那麼穩，但最差也是第三，多
→ : 輸給羅素這樣子。
推 : 看到himself 笑了 XDDDDDDDD 霸氣12F 01/14 12:59
推 : 大帥其實這樣不意外 他本身在哈林打過不短的時間13F 01/14 13:04
→ : 甚至有時候休賽期也會去打哈林
→ : 甚至有時候休賽期也會去打哈林
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→ : 有非常高度的相關 這是絕大多數人的思考模式 倒不是
→ : 說選A不選B就一定非常認真比較過覺得A比B強之類的
→ : 有非常高度的相關 這是絕大多數人的思考模式 倒不是
→ : 說選A不選B就一定非常認真比較過覺得A比B強之類的
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