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作者 標題 [外絮] Westbrook 做太多了嗎? (翻譯)
時間 Tue Apr 4 15:46:26 2017
Doing Too Much? No, But Westbrook & Oklahoma City Search For Balance
做太多了嗎？不，但 Westbrook 和雷霆正尋求平衡
原文：http://bit.ly/2owMxEk
Doing Too Much? No, But Westbrook & Oklahoma City Search For Balance
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Talking down historical achievements has become something of in vogue in the NBA. In a season where statistical dominance is prevalent across the leag ...
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Talking down historical achievements has become something of in vogue in the NBA. In a season where statistical dominance is prevalent across the league, the talking down of significant numerical achievement has moved far beyond just the anti-analytics crowd.
談論歷史級成就已經成為當今 NBA 的潮流。在這個數據支配橫行整個聯盟的球季，談論這些重大數字成就的已經遠超過那些反分析的群眾。
There has become a serious need to explain the miraculous, as if there was some rational explanation to talk down what is some amazing performances. Russell Westbrook has 33 triple doubles? “Out of this world? Surely not. There must be a reason!”
已經有很大的需求需要去解釋這些不可思議的數據，就像有些理性的解釋在談論這些驚人的表現。Russell Westbrook 拿下 33 次大三元？「不同凡響？肯定不是，這必定有原因。」
Instead, it’s just something amazing and historical we should relish and enjoy as something that might be seen as an outlier in the future.
相反地，這只是一些我們應該享受，作為在未來可能看似是些異常的驚人、且歷史級的表現。
>From James Harden’s efficiency and astonishing assist total, to LeBron James’ seemingly never-declining athleticism, to Isaiah Thomas’ fourth quarter dominance, or the incredible all-round specimen that is Kawhi Leonard — it might just be we are in a transcendent era of basketball where all players’ peaks are coming together at the right time, and their teams are maximizing their output in a way we haven’t seen prior.
從 James Harden 的效率和令人驚奇的助攻數，到 LeBron James 表面上看似從未衰退的運動能力，再到 Isaiash Thomas 第四節的統治力，或是令人難以置信的全能物種 Kawhi Leonard，這可能只是因為我們處在一個卓越的籃球世代，所有球員在對的時間點同時達到巔峰，並且他們的球隊用過去我們不曾看過的方式來最大化他們的輸出。
Make no mistake, Russell Westbrook is not a perfect player. He has improved far ahead of what anybody expected — particularly without his former running mate Kevin Durant, but “Bad Russ” still comes to the surface. It’s not that he becomes a bad player by any measure, but his decisions don’t always fully represent what he can offer to a team. Take the Thunder’s 4-game losing streak: Westbrook didn’t struggle; 45 points, 8.3 rebounds and 6.8 assists per game. No triple doubles, however.
別搞錯了，Russell Westbrook 並不是個完美的球員。他的進步程度是遠超過任何人的想像，尤其是在失去了過去的搭檔 Kevin Durant，但「不好的西河」仍然存在。這並非出自於任何數據統計佐證，而是他在場上的決定並不總是完全呈現他所能帶給球隊的。舉雷霆過去的四連敗為例，Westbrook 並沒有陷入困境：場均 45 分、8.3 籃板、6.8 助攻。然而，沒有任何大三元。
There’s a reason the Thunder are 27–6 when Westbrook registers a triple double, as opposed to 11–23 when he doesn’t. His playmaking and involving his teammates are key to the Thunder’s success, and that doesn’t mean his scoring isn’t helpful.
當 Westbrook 拿下大三元時雷霆的戰績是 27W-6L，相反的是 11W-23L，這是有原因的。他為球隊創造進攻機會、讓他的隊友融入是雷霆能夠成功的關鍵，但這也不表示他的得分沒有幫助。
That being said, when Russell Westbrook has scored 46 points or more, the Thunder are 1–6 this season. That’s awful. His fourth quarter takeovers and incredible clutch play aside, that can’t happen for a whole game every single night. Role players lose rhythm and their feel for the ball, and they are unable to make something happen when they finally do get touches.
話雖如此，當 Russell Westbrook 得到超過 46 分時，雷霆本季的戰績是 1W-6L，這很糟糕。他第四節接管比賽、難以置信的關鍵時刻表現不可能在每晚每場比賽都發生。角色球員失去節奏和球感，所以他們沒辦法在終於碰到球後做出什麼貢獻。
There’s also a line to be drawn because when Westbrook has scored between 35–45 points this season, Oklahoma City is in fact a stunning 14–3. “Doing too much?” Far from it.
同樣值得一提的是本季當 Westbrook 得到 35-45 分時，雷霆的戰績是 14W-3L。「他做太多了嗎？」一點也不。
Take this excerpt from Thunder guru Royce Young, who wrote this in the aftermath of Sam Presti’s fleecing of the Chicago Bulls at the trade deadline (per ESPN):
摘錄這段由雷霆權威 Royce Young 所寫的：
Westbrook generates everything for OKC’s offense, which isn’t necessarily a bad thing. His 42.4 usage rate — the highest the league has seen since Kobe Bryant in 2005–06 — doesn’t worry the Thunder. It’s about who’s around Westbrook when he’s using all those possessions that they care about.
Westbrook 在雷霆進攻端上製造了所有機會，這並不全然是個壞事。他 42.4 的球權使用率，自 2005-06 球季 Kobe Bryant 以來的最高數字，並不讓雷霆擔心。這只關乎當他使用這些球權時，Westbrook 的身邊有誰。
The Thunder have intently studied the way they play with Westbrook as the lone focal point, trying to understand what will complement him best: what kind of shots Westbrook creates most, what kind of players excel alongside him, what kind of offense is successful and what kind is not. Westbrook has a distinct style, and before they could find pieces, they wanted to try to understand how those pieces could fit in.
雷霆已經專注地研究他們如何搭配 Westbrook 的打法，嘗試瞭解什麼能最佳地與他互補：Westbrook 製造了最多哪種投籃機會，哪種球員能在他身旁有突出表現，哪種進攻型態是能夠成功的而哪些是不行的。Westbrook 有著明確的風格，在他們能找到最合適的陣型之前，他們想要嘗試去瞭解這些球員能怎麼與他搭配。
Conversion: the Thunder understand their roster and star player, and while it isn’t the finished article, they are learning how best to utilize it all.
大意：雷霆瞭解他們的球員名單和明星球員，雖然這還不是完全體，但他們正學習如何用最佳的方式使用他們。
There’s a big reason the Thunder don’t concern themselves with Westbrook’s usage rate. Physically, they know he can handle it, and he takes offense at the notion that he can’t. They also know when he’s locked in to what he needs to do to help the team win, they do it at an absurd rate compared to expectations. Oklahoma City is 8–20 when Russell Westbrook has less than 10 assists this season, but 30–9 when he has 10 or more.
雷霆不在意 Westbrook 的球權使用率有個很大的原因。就身體素質上來說，他們知道他能處理這些球，並且在進攻上做出人們認為他做不到的事。他們也知道當他進攻受阻時需要做出什麼來幫助球隊贏球。本季雷霆在 Russell Westbrook 傳出不到 10 次助攻時的
戰績是 8W-20L，相反的傳出 10 次以上時是 30W-9L。Even the furore around his turnovers can be ill-conceived. Westbrook is not Chris Paul — he will try passes that have a high element of risk, and they are justified because of his increasingly good vision and reading of the play. It’s what tees up such easy baskets for his teammates. There are downsides, but it has its upsides too. Here’s a fun quirk — Oklahoma City is 11–15 when Westbrook has 4 turnovers or less this season. When he has 5 or more turnovers, the Thunder are 27–14.
對於他失誤數的公憤與批評甚至可能是錯誤的想法。Westbrook 不是 Chris Paul，他會嘗試傳出一些可能具有高度危險性的球，但由於他愈來愈好的視野和對比賽的解讀這些其實也合理。這是為什麼他的隊友們可以獲得一些簡單投籃的機會。這種傳球有缺點，但也是有它的優點。一個有趣的怪象，本季雷霆在 Westbrook 發生四次以下失誤時的戰績是
11W-15L。當他有五次以上失誤時，雷霆則是拿下 27W-14L。Westbrook’s a one-man riot act, and he causes far more good than harm in his pursuit of victory. Because of his lack of convention, it’ll always cause traditionalists to have their doubts and sometimes be more than simply critical of him. That’s all part of the rollercoaster, however.
在 Westbrook 追求勝利的過程中他帶給球隊的好處遠多於壞處。因為他有違傳統認知，
這總是讓傳統主義者對他有所懷疑，甚至有時不僅僅是批評他。
It’s getting other players involved to the right extent and finding the correct formula that helps them succeed. Victor Oladipo is becoming increasingly comfortable as number two and backcourt partner, and his recent time out with injury has helped heal his ailing back and wrist issues. In the four games since his return, he’s averaging 19.8 points, 3.5 rebounds, 1.8 assists and 1.5 steals per game. He’s also passed the 20-point mark in three of those games. That’s crucial because when he does that,
the Thunder are 11–1. With a sometimes middling offense, they need the cogs around Westbrook to function in order to win.他們正讓其他球員在適當的程度上融入並且尋找能幫助他們成功的公式。Victor Oladipo 已經對於他第二人及後場搭檔的定位感到愈來愈舒適，而他近期的因傷缺席也幫助他的背部及手腕問題能夠痊癒。在他回到球場後的四場比賽，他場均有 19.8 分、3.5 籃板、1.8 助攻和 1.5 抄截。他也在其中的三場比賽拿到超過 20 分。這相當重要，因為當他有這樣的表現時，雷霆的戰績是 11W-1L。有著偶爾中等程度的進攻，他們需要這些圍繞在 Westbrook 旁的齒輪能夠運作以贏下勝利。
That includes Steven Adams, who has struggled throughout February and most of March so far. Lack of touches on offense seemingly play a huge role in that, and he has been a step slower on defense, to say the least. On a team with severe lack of shooting, the Thunder must get their big men touches and points to open space around them.
這包括了 Steven Adams，他在二月份到三月份陷入了困境。表面上來說缺乏在進攻上的觸球可能佔了很大的成分，並且他在防守上常常會慢一拍。在一支嚴重缺乏投射能力的球隊裡，雷霆必須拉開空間讓他們的長人們有更多的觸球機會。
When Adams takes 10 or more field goal attempts, the Thunder are 18–8 and when he scores 15 or more points, they are 14–7. Fellow stache brother Enes Kanter has really taught the rest of the league his true value this season, and his unfortunate absence before the All-Star break only emphasized that. When the Turk logs a double-double, the Thunder are 11–4, and when he scores 20 points or more, they are 9–3.
當 Adams 出手 10 次以上時，雷霆的戰績是 18W-8L，而當他得到 15 分以上時，則是 14W-7L。鬍子兄弟 Enes Kanter 在本季也展現了這樣的價值，他在明星賽前的缺席也凸顯了這點。當土耳其中鋒拿下雙十表現時，雷霆的戰績是 11W-4L，而當他得到 20 分以上時，則是 9W-3L。
Oklahoma City has the tools to thrive inside and win the rebound battle, which they’ve done in 72 percent of this season’s games, and they are 31–17 in those situations. All statistics listed are not equal, and there are holes to be poked in them, but there’s no denying there is a pattern here — when Westbrook is using the ball heavily for his own scoring production, balanced with involving his teammates, the Thunder become the best version of themselves.
雷霆有許多球員能茁壯他們的禁區並且贏得籃板的爭搶，他們在本季 72% 的比賽中掌握了籃板優勢，這種情況下的戰績是 31W-17L。所有的數據統計都不可能完全公允，一定會有漏洞存在，但不可否認的是這存在著一些趨勢，當 Westbrook 使用大量球權在產生個人得分時，也平衡地將隊友融入進來，對雷霆而言這是最佳變體。
Watching Westbrook go solo on the offensive end is fun, but it won’t translate to wins if he is doing it alone. A recent ESPN video pointed out that Westbrook does in fact average 11.3 assists at home, whilst posting 9.2 on the road. It was claimed that the Thunder scorekeepers must be becoming a little generous, but when looking deeper, that doesn’t make sense and frankly, doesn’t measure up.
看 Westbrook 在進攻端上單打是很有趣的，但若只有他的表現這將沒辦法把這些轉換為勝利。最近的一段 ESPN 影片指出 Westbrook 在主場平均可送出 11.3 次助攻，客場則
是 9.2 次。有人聲稱這位雷霆的得分好手必須更無私慷慨些，但更深入一點看，這可能也不太合理。
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Meanwhile, it also stems from the fact that his young teammates struggle on the road. Remember, the Thunder are 25–9 at home (5th in the NBA) and an abysmal 13–20 on the road (14th in the NBA). It’s not unusual for role players, particularly younger ones, to face difficulties on their travels.
同時，這也可能起源自他的年輕隊友們在客場經常陷入困境。要記得，雷霆在主場的戰績是 25W-9L（全聯盟第 5），而糟糕的是客場只有 13W-20L（全聯盟第 14）。對角色球員，尤其是年輕球員來說，在客場遭遇困境並非不常見。
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The contrast is stark, and seemingly supporting evidence that it’s Westbrook’s teammates performing more favorably at home than it is the scorekeepers helping him out.
這個對比是很鮮明殘酷的，並且表面上地印證了 Westbrook 的隊友們在主場才有比較好的表現。
Another strange narrative that emerged from those videos, which have reigned ever since, is the talk of Westbrook’s “uncontested rebounds.” A design that the Thunder have used is asking their bigs to box out opponents so that it is their point guard who cleans up the boards. The automatic notion of this refers back to “stat-padding,” but for Oklahoma City, it serves a higher function.
影片中另一項奇怪的敘述則是關於 Westbrook 的「無競爭籃板」。雷霆的戰術設計是讓
他們的長人在禁區卡住對方的球員，如此一來控衛能夠把籃板抓下。對此很多人不假思索
地認為是「刷數據」，但對於雷霆來說，這有著更大的功用。
他們的長人在禁區卡住對方的球員，如此一來控衛能夠把籃板抓下。對此很多人不假思索
地認為是「刷數據」，但對於雷霆來說，這有著更大的功用。
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Domantas Sabonis leaves the rebound for his star man. It allows Westbrook to launch in transition, whilst bigger defenders are already behind him, losing their breath trying to catch up. That extra second or so matters when you can get to the other end in the meantime. You can see the Lakers are aware of the need to get back in transition — how else do you stop Russell Westbrook getting to the rim?
Domantas Sabonis 把籃板留給了他的明星隊友。這讓 Westbrook 能夠發起轉換快攻，同時也把另一位高大的防守球員擋在後頭。這省下來的時間在你有機會反快攻時顯得很重要。
If Sabonis catches that himself, lands, turns and then passes to Westbrook, the window of opportunity to lob the ball to Roberson and/or Abrines is gone, and that bucket doesn’t happen. The Thunder struggle in the half court and thrive on the break. It’s not a notion to increase Westbrook’s production; it’s to maximize his God-given talents.
假如 Sabonis 自己抓下籃板、著地、轉身並傳給 Westbrook，能夠吊高球給 Roberson
和 Abrines 的空間可能就消失了，這種轉換快攻球可能就不會發生。雷霆向來在半場陣地戰陷入困境，但在快攻上是茁壯的。這概念並非為了提升 Westbrook 的數據產出，而是為了最大化他的天賦。
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A normal defensive rebound is no different. The entire defense is focused on Westbrook as he tears down the middle of the floor for the bucket. Meanwhile, Alex Abrines sneaks out to the three-point line for a transition opportunity. When you don’t have spacing due to a lack of shooters, creating open shots comes at a premium. Luckily, Westbrook creates his own form of gravity. The paint literally collapses at any sight of him charging towards it.
一個普通的防守籃板同樣無異。整個防守重點在 Westbrook 破壞了中距離的出手機會。同時，Alex Abrines 偷偷的跑到了三分線外製造了一個轉換快攻投籃機會。當你因為缺乏射手群而沒有太多空間時，創造投籃空檔顯得十分重要。幸運的是，Westbrook 就像製造了他自己的引力場，當他運球突破時禁區確實都會內縮。
If you have potentially the greatest natural athlete not named LeBron James on your roster, wouldn’t you do everything to make the most of those skills?
如果你的球員名單裡有名字不是 LeBron James 但擁有絕佳天分的運動員，你怎麼不會嘗試做出一切來運用他的這些能力？
Triple doubles are an increasingly common sight, with Russell Westbrook at the head of that charge. He’s heading for a historic, potentially MVP season. If what he was doing were simple to do, other players would indeed be doing it too, or would have done it already. They aren’t, and only one has in NBA history, so why are we so insistent on tearing it down?
大三元已經變得愈來愈常見，而 Russell Westbrook 便是這名箭頭。他正朝向一個歷史級、可能競爭 MVP 的球季。如果他所做的事真的這麼簡單，那麼其他球員一定早就嘗試甚至已經達成過。但並沒有，NBA 歷史上只有一位過，所以為什麼我們要持續去詆毀看衰這件事？
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推 : 好長1F 04/04 15:48
推 : 感謝翻譯，推2F 04/04 15:54
推 : 感謝翻譯～～～3F 04/04 15:58
推 : 推推啊龜4F 04/04 15:59
→ : 到底是他不夠信任隊友，還是隊友真的完全幫不上5F 04/04 16:00
整季看下來可能是不夠信任。但通常都是當隊友真的在投籃上手感不佳時，才會選擇完全自己扛下來，這在球季中段的第四節尤其明顯。
推 : 可以看看他不在場上的那十幾分鐘阿6F 04/04 16:01
推 : 放棄防守了嗎？7F 04/04 16:02
→ : 他的隊友不錯 但很不穩 每場都不知道誰會是進攻點8F 04/04 16:02
推 : h大 去看比賽就知道答案了..9F 04/04 16:02
推 : 感謝翻譯，分析的很有道理10F 04/04 16:02
推 : 隊友太年輕 常常不是大好就是大壞 很不穩11F 04/04 16:05
推 : 感謝解釋，E大我有空會去追幾場完整的比賽看看12F 04/04 16:06
推 : 菜鳥球員客場問題之前都沒看過其他文章點出來 讚 感13F 04/04 16:07
→ : 謝翻譯
→ : 謝翻譯
推 : 客場主場真的是不同等級的球隊15F 04/04 16:07
推 :16F 04/04 16:12
推 : 推 我今年看很多場雷霆的比賽 覺得龜抓籃板沒什麼17F 04/04 16:12
→ : 問題 但助攻選擇有時候別亂塞可以降低失誤
→ : 問題 但助攻選擇有時候別亂塞可以降低失誤
籃板犧牲造成防守端的恍神當然是個問題，但 SportVU 的 contested shot 數其實沒辦法直接反應問題，另外雷霆在外線的防守可能整隊都有不小問題就是。但的確，對雷霆來說有太多問題的重要性遠大於這被批評的籃板。
推 : 推大三元龜19F 04/04 16:16
推 : 推20F 04/04 16:16
推 : 推 隊友就是比較菜啊也不是不強 都還在成長21F 04/04 16:23
推 : 推 一龜等於一大三元22F 04/04 16:26
※ hungys:轉錄至看板 Thunder 04/04 16:27
推 : 好文推 也推翻譯23F 04/04 16:28
推 : 推個24F 04/04 16:36
推 : 推好文25F 04/04 16:38
推 : westbrook除了腦衝跟防守偷懶 其實他已經很罩了26F 04/04 16:44
推 : 不是不信任隊友，是隊友都很信任他27F 04/04 16:45
推 : 推推28F 04/04 16:46
推 : 推29F 04/04 16:58
推 : 如果其他東西都不管的話，西河的球賽讓人覺得每場30F 04/04 17:08
→ : 都像季後賽，真的很過癮，對我來說就夠了
→ : 都像季後賽，真的很過癮，對我來說就夠了
推 : 這舊文分析的狀況跟近期來說好像有出入32F 04/04 17:15
→ : 好像沒有提 為何他要自己搶一堆籃板33F 04/04 17:24
→ : 中間不是有一段籃板的跟影片34F 04/04 17:28
→ : 這篇是三月中下旬的，應該沒有到很久遠吧
→ : 這篇是三月中下旬的，應該沒有到很久遠吧
推 : 雷霆就是射手群真的不穩，沒辦法幫龜龜跟禁區優勢36F 04/04 17:33
→ : 擴大化
→ : 擴大化
推 : 西河有他的毛病，不過天底下本來也沒哪個球員沒缺點38F 04/04 17:41
推 : 龜龜大三元沒什麼好懷疑的，真以為要刷大三元那麽好39F 04/04 17:58
→ : 刷哦
→ : 刷哦
→ : 還是會有一堆人噓籃板數41F 04/04 17:58
推 : 因為KD離開，極大化西河天賦來建立球風是沒錯42F 04/04 18:06
推 : 推43F 04/04 18:07
推 : 拿籃板沒問題，問題在於為了拿籃板放棄防守44F 04/04 18:08
→ : 而且本季才首次嘗試，未來針對缺底改善防守、補強球45F 04/04 18:08
→ : 員，在西河不受傷下都大有可為
→ : 員，在西河不受傷下都大有可為
推 : 但彌彌會說這就是龜酸47F 04/04 18:11
推 : ...防守不積極不是公認的嗎 沒事也不會叫人龜酸吧48F 04/04 18:19
推 : 數據好才會贏球 那不讓他刷是想輸嗎?49F 04/04 18:23
→ : 無差別酸才是龜酸，至於很愛拉龜拉隊友或顛倒推文50F 04/04 18:30
→ : 引戰的又是另一回事了...
→ : 引戰的又是另一回事了...
推 : 推翻譯52F 04/04 18:35
推 : 國防部長只剩造謠功能，可憐53F 04/04 18:36
推 : 推54F 04/04 18:36
推 : 還我西門= =55F 04/04 18:43
推 : 結論：刷好刷滿56F 04/04 19:01
推 : 這篇頗中肯 但龜酸不理你57F 04/04 19:10
幹嘛對酸酸有所期待~
→ : 可惜mvp還是鬍子的58F 04/04 19:32
推 : 推翻譯跟我龜59F 04/04 19:34
※ 編輯: hungys (36.227.245.164), 04/04/2017 19:55:46推 : 推翻譯和我龜60F 04/04 20:27
推 : 一堆酸酸還是會繼續酸刷數據61F 04/04 20:28
噓 : 因為他的隊友轉去勇士 所以勇士將用盡全力詆毀龜龜62F 04/04 20:32
推 : 推63F 04/04 20:42
推 : 推！！64F 04/04 20:45
推 : 他跟當年Kidd做攻守轉換時候快速推進雷同。只可惜65F 04/04 20:50
→ : MVP只有一位，戰機要更好才可行
→ : MVP只有一位，戰機要更好才可行
推 : 推我龜 我覺得真的是隊友不夠穩定 太依賴龜了67F 04/04 21:06
推 : 推 雷霆只要射手夠穩絕對上升一個檔次68F 04/04 21:18
推 : Kidd有中鋒班的籃板數據 西河沒意外持續這種打法69F 04/04 21:39
→ : 籃板數也會名列歷史級排名
→ : 籃板數也會名列歷史級排名
推 : 推推71F 04/04 22:21
推 : 好文推72F 04/04 22:45
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