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作者 bosskiss00 (春藥料理王)
標題 Fw: [外電] 回顧Blatt被炒的始末
時間 Sun Jan 24 12:50:26 2016


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作者 kart (=\)
標題 [外電] 回顧Blatt被炒的始末
時間 Sun Jan 24 03:48:30 2016



        這篇文章是ESPN兩位專門cover騎士隊的記者共同所寫
        我認為算是一篇不錯的回顧史,至少比隨便一個沒太多內線
        的yahoo記者準確一些

        http://goo.gl/Brpw22
NBA - The final unraveling of David Blatt
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The warning signs came early that the first NBA job for a successful overseas coach was not what he signed up for. Here's a look at David Blatt's fairly tumultuous time in Cleveland. ...

 

        原文非常長,我只挑重點翻譯,但是建議讀原文。

    Running his hands over his hair to smooth it back into place,
    David Blatt emerged from the visitors locker room at the United
    Center with a bit of a dour look on his face.
        Blatt剛從公牛的客場休息室走出來,一面把亂掉的頭髮撥正,
        露出一點嫌惡的表情。

    It was Nov. 1, 2014, only his second game as an NBA head coach,
    but what he was about to say was the first crack in the
    foundation, and it would lead to one of the more stunning firings
    in NBA history nearly 15 months later.
        2014年11月一號,這是他NBA的第二場執教。而這也是第一條裂痕。

    That night, the Cleveland Cavaliers had defeated the Chicago Bulls
    for their first win of the season and Blatt's first win as an NBA
    coach. The players waited for him in the locker room, and when he
    emerged from his office they mobbed him, mussed his hair and
    yelled. They presented him with the game ball. Blatt accepted it
    with a smile, but he was also annoyed.
        騎士隊在今天剛拿下本季第一場勝利,同時也是Blatt的NBA第一場勝利。
        球員很興奮的在休息室等著他,當他一進來他們就衝上去嚕他的頭,並且
        大吼大叫著。他們給他了比賽用球。Blatt微笑著收下了這顆球,

        但是他也覺得煩。

    "Not all of you know me that well," Blatt told the media, "but
    I've probably won over 700 games in my career."
        Blatt告訴媒體
        「或許不是你們所有人都對我知之甚詳,但是我已經贏了超過700場比賽了」

    Image and perception of a rookie coach
        作為一個菜鳥教練的待遇和形象

    At the very heart of the matter, this is why the Cavs fired Blatt
    on Friday, despite a record of 83-40 and a Finals appearance.
    Blatt viewed himself as a coach with numerous championships in
    Europe, an Olympic medal and 20-plus years on the sideline, a
    career that made him one of the most experienced coaches in the
    world.
        我認為這第一個事件也說明了騎士為什麼最終會把Blatt火掉。
        (這點跟版大的說法相去不遠)
        Blatt自認為自己是有20+年經驗的教練,有無數國際賽的榮譽。
        他應該是世界上享譽最久的教頭之一。

    The Cavs players, especially the veterans, saw him as a rookie.
        但是騎士球員,尤其老鳥們,把它當成NBA菜鳥來看。

    "That's his first NBA win," Kyrie Irving said after the game. "He
    deserves the game ball. It's his first time in the NBA. I call him
    the virgin of the NBA."
        KI該場比賽賽後說
        「這是他的第一場NBA勝利呀,他應該拿到比賽球。這是他NBA的第一次,
        我都叫他NBA處女哩。」

    Both Blatt and his players, specifically LeBron James, made
    concessions to deal with this chasm of perception. Such courtesies
    probably would have continued through this season too, as James
    made a glaring attempt to publicly support Blatt.
        Blatt和他的球員,尤其是LBJ,之後都有在他菜鳥形象與否的巨大認知落差
        上作出讓步。這樣的禮貌性互動沒有意外的話本季也會持續下去。
        尤其LBJ今年公開讚揚過Blatt數次。

    But the fissure between Blatt and the players was irreparable and
    had been for some time, a reality general manager David Griffin
    finally accepted when he executed Blatt's dismissal, despite the
    Cavs' 30-11 record and Blatt's likely berth as All-Star coach.
        然而Blatt和球員間的裂痕依然存在,而且已經存在一陣子了。
        這也是為什麼Griffin決定做出讓Blatt走路的決定,無視於30-11
        也無視於Blatt即將首次執教全明星賽。

    The issues started before James returned to the franchise in July
    2014. The Cavs were all over the place in their coaching search
    that summer. They offered the job to numerous big names, from John
    Calipari and Bill Self in the college ranks to Steve Kerr from the
    broadcast booth. Griffin also interviewed Alvin Gentry, whom he
    had worked alongside with the Phoenix Suns, and Tyronn Lue, a
    rising assistant who learned under Doc Rivers.
        這問題甚至在LBJ決定回歸前就開始了。
        騎士在2014季後花了很久時間找下一任教練,詢問了無數NCAA名教頭
        詢問過Steve Kerr,Alvin Gentry(Griffin在太陽的夥伴),和在
        Doc Rivers下表現甚優的Tyronn Lue。

    But team owner Dan Gilbert wanted to make a different kind of
    hire. He didn't want a retread or an inexperienced coach, which is
    why he chased the veteran college coaches. It's why he loved
    Blatt, who was a legend in Israel, something that appealed to
    Gilbert.
        但是球團老闆Gilbert決定做一個不一樣的選擇。他不想要沒經驗的教練
        或是回鍋的老教練。這就是為啥他最後選上了Blatt。

    When James turned his attention to free agency after losing in the
    Finals with the Miami Heat, James' representatives were surprised
    the Cavs had hired Blatt and hadn't waited to see if James would
    have input. They were also surprised that despite wanting James to
    return, the Cavs didn't have enough cap space available to offer
    James a maximum contract.
        該年LBJ方面的代表對騎士的決定有點意外,因為騎士並沒有知會LBJ方
        在教練上的選擇。 他們當時也很意外騎士並沒有為LBJ的可能回歸
        清出足夠的薪資空間。

    From the Cavs' perspective, they had no clue James was serious
    about returning and had to conduct business. More proof of that
    came in early July, when Gilbert sent his jet to get free-agent
    small forward Gordon Hayward, whom the Cavs were seriously
    considering making a huge offer before they spoke to James.
        當然從騎士的角度看,他們並沒有足夠的信心LBJ一定會回歸,而他們
        畢竟要有足夠的備案。就像當時Gilbert也特地坐飛機去找過Gordon Hayward。
        發生在騎士和LBJ會面之前。

    No welcome wagon from the King
        LBJ並沒有熱烈歡迎Blatt的舉動

    After James signed, he showed no interest in meeting Blatt. Weeks
    passed before James took a brief break from filming a movie in New
    York to have a face-to-face conversation with his new coach. It
    was clear James' respect for Blatt was limited, and soon it also
    became clear that Blatt assumed respect would be coming his way.
        當LBJ簽約後,他並沒有興趣先行會見Blatt。LBJ一直到數週後才在
        拍電影的空檔跟Blatt有一次面對面的會談。
        只能說LBJ並不認識Blatt也並沒有尊敬,而也很清楚的是Blatt認為
        球員對教練尊敬是自然不過的事。

    This set the stage for a traumatic tenure for Blatt. In fairness,
    this was not the team he had been hired to coach, as James had
    signed and the young player Blatt was primarily hired to develop,
    Andrew Wiggins, had been traded to acquire Kevin Love.
        而兩方期待值得落差也造成了這項悲劇。
        公平點說,Blatt當初被騎士請來要執教的是一隻完全不一樣的年輕球隊。

    "David was hired to coach a developmental team and young players
    who would've wanted to please him," one team source said. "He
    ended up coaching a finished product where the players expected
    him to please them."
        一個球隊的內部人士說:
        「Blatt是被請來執教一隻發展中的球隊和一群還沒站穩的年輕人,需要
        好表現才能得教練歡心的。但是結果他卻必須執教一隻完成品,一隻
        球員期待教練能有好戰術好表現來贏得他們歡心的球隊。」

    To complicate matters, the Cavs hired the runner-up for the job,
    Lue, to be Blatt's assistant. To keep him away from the Clippers,
    the Cavs gave him a record four-year, $6.5 million deal -- for an
    assistant. Gilbert would later call the coaching staff the best he
    had assembled in his time as owner.
        而讓事情更複雜的是,騎士隊竟然找來當初教頭的第二人選來做助教。
        為了防止他繼續在快艇隊執教(防止資敵?)騎士給了Lue四年650萬的肥約。
        而Gilbert也很自豪地對外宣稱這是他組合過最強的聖鬥士。

    Blatt endorsed the Lue move, which many in the league saw as an
    immediate undercutting of the head coach. Never before could
    anyone remember the runner-up for a job being hired as the lead
    assistant, and it was taken as an example of Blatt's NBA
    inexperience. Blatt also didn't understand that he would have to
    earn players' respect; it would not be instantly given.
        Blatt替Lue的簽約背書,而當時很多聯盟其他人認為簽約Lue是在削Blatt
        的權利。聯盟中不曾有過球隊會請當初的第二人選作為首席助教。
        而這一點大家也認為證明Blatt是NBA菜鳥,不了解NBA的運作的象徵之一。
        就如同Blatt也不了解在NBA裡教頭需要去贏得球員的尊敬而不是一個
        立即絕對的關係。

    "I've been a head coach for 22 years. People overlook that too
    easily and, I think, unfairly," Blatt said last season. "I am not
    now, nor have I have been for quite some time, a rookie coach."
        Blatt上季曾經說
        「我做總仔已經22年了,人們太容易忽視這一點,而我覺得很不公平。
        我現在不是,也已經很久不是一個菜鳥教頭。」

    Within days of the start of the past season, James began
    expressing doubt that Blatt would work out as the Cavs' long-term
    answer. That was crystallized during a road trip to the West Coast
    in the second week of the season, when James and Irving began a
    bit of a tug-of-war over control of the offense. Blatt seemed
    powerless to control them, and if he tried, it didn't work.
        在上季開季沒幾天,LBJ就對Blatt能否長久執教表達懷疑。
        這在上一季第一次西部客場之旅表露無遺-
        當Lebron和KI輪流掌控著球權而Blatt無力回天。
        (註:記得有一場KI0助攻被Lebron噹,就是那一陣子)

    Shortly thereafter, James changed his role in the Cavs' offense
    and began playing point guard while moving Irving off the ball. In
    conjunction with the move, the Cavs, naturally, started moving
    away from the Princeton sets Blatt had installed during the
    preseason. James nonchalantly told the media he didn't consult
    Blatt on the changes.
        在沒多久之後,Lebron就接管了控球的角色。
        而自此以後騎士也離Blatt在季前賽練的普林斯頓戰術漸行漸遠。
        而LBJ也曾表達過他在這個轉換上並沒有特別去請示教練。

    "No, I can do it on my own," James said. "I'm past those days
    where I have to ask."
        LBJ「不,我可以自己決定,我已經到了不需要我特別去
        請示什麼戰術的年紀了。」

    King's connection to Lue
        LBJ和Lue的好關係

    From that moment forward, it was clear James gave little more than
    lip service to Blatt. As the days passed, James seemed to connect
    more and more with Lue. For years, he had admired Lue's former
    boss, Rivers, and that helped them establish a connection. At
    times over the years, James grumbled about having not played for a
    former NBA player since his first season and a half, when Paul
    Silas coached the Cavs. In the time since Silas, James played for
    Mike Brown, Erik Spoelstra and Blatt.
        從那之後可以知道LBJ對Blatt並不買單。而反之,LBJ和Lue的關係
        卻越來越好。當然眾所皆知LBJ已經欣賞Lue的老大Doc Rivers很久了,
        而這一點也幫助了LBJ和Lue的連結。
        LBJ一直以來都想要替球員教練效命,然而在Paul Silas之後-他的前一年半,
        他只替MB, Spo和Blatt打過球。

    James had played against Lue, who enjoyed great success against
    James' teams as a point guard for several teams. For a while,
    media who covered the Cavs referred to Lue as "Killa," which was
    short for "Cavs killer."
        Lue的球隊曾經打敗過LBJ的騎士多次。

    "It was like an 800-pound gorilla as the season moved on," one
    person involved with the team said. "You could just see LeBron
    connecting to [Lue] and turning his back on David."
        一個球團內部人士形容:
        「這就像是背上有隻800磅的大猩猩*,你可以明顯感受到LBJ跟Lue
        關係太好而跟Blatt關係不那麼好。」
        (*美厘語會用背上有隻猴來形容芒刺在背,如果已經不是隻猴而是隻大猩猩...)

    That didn't stay a secret. James' and other players' complaints
    about Blatt's style got out quickly. During games, Cavs players
    complained about the coach to opposing players. Once, while on the
    road, an injured Cavs player used the home team's therapy pool and
    complained about Blatt, with his thoughts literally echoing
    throughout the home locker room.
        這也不是一個秘密。LBJ和其他球員對Blatt的抱怨擴散的很快。
        騎士有些球員會跟對手球員抱怨自家教練。
        有一次在客場,騎士一名受傷的球員在用主場對手的休息室做治療時,
        他對Blatt的抱怨讓整個休息室都聽得一清二楚。

    At one point during the challenging stretch, media members went
    looking for an endorsement of Blatt from James.
        而當時好事的媒體當然也不放過這個機會去詢問LBJ挺不挺教練。

    "Listen, man, I don't pay no bills around here," was
    James' response, though he said the players and coaches were
    getting to know one another, and Blatt still had the team's
    attention.
        「聽著,我不是老闆。」LBJ當時如是說。
        即使他也說教練和球員還在了解彼此,而Blatt依然能讓球隊聽話。

    By late December 2014, with the team hovering around .500, the
    Cavs realized they were at a crossroads. Griffin made it clear he
    thought the struggles were partially his fault because he didn't
    provide Blatt enough of a bench. After trade talks over the course
    of several weeks, he was ready to execute some deals to try to
    solve it. But would Blatt be retained?
        當2014年12月時,球隊已經爛到五成上下,球團知道他們要做出決定了。
        Griffin當時認為自己錯在沒有給Blatt足夠的人手(板凳)。
        大家知道騎士會有交易,但是問題在於騎士會順便把Blatt也砍了嗎?

    The issues with Blatt and the players, James especially, were
    clear. Dealing with strains in his back and his knee, James needed
    to take a few weeks off. The team knew it would struggle with
    James out, and the pressure would mount. The Cavs had to decide
    whether they would address the problem or support the coach.
    Stories about Blatt's job status started to appear in the media.
    Several days passed. Gilbert and Griffin debated the issue
    internally. Finally, they made a decision.
        當時Blatt和球員都有問題,而LBJ的問題也很明顯。
        LBJ上季初一直受到膝傷和背傷困擾,而導致他決定休息數週。
        球團知道LBJ不打,戰績一定會受影響,而內部壓力也會更大。

        球團要決定他們是否要動教練。而當時也有一連串關於這方面的報導上報。

        經過了數天,Gilbert和Griffin做出了決定。

    "No change is being made, period," Griffin said in an unusual
    pregame media session. "It's such a ridiculous assertion."
        Griffin當時舉行了特別的賽前記者會並且宣稱
        「我們不會動教練,你們在說啥我聽不懂。」


    These comments were meant to get the media to back off Blatt, but

    they were clearly aimed at the players as well, as they made sure
    the franchise gave a strong vote of confidence for its coach.
    Griffin then executed trades to bring Iman Shumpert, J.R. Smith,
    and Timofey Mozgov to the team. James returned from his absence
    and looked vastly healthier, and the Cavs went from 19-20 at the
    midway point of the season to one of the NBA's most dominant
    teams.
        Griffin的表態說明了當時球團的態度:媒體別來煩Blatt,球員給我
        好好打球,我們不會換教練。
        而之後的交易和LBJ的健康回歸翻轉了騎士去年的命運。

    A truce developed. Blatt backed off and gave James space, and
    James took it, whether it was calling plays, deciding when he
    entered the game and when he exited or even strategy. James
    stopped taking digs at Blatt in the media, and the complaints to
    opposing players stopped.
        戰績進步後,信任感也上升了。Blatt會退讓並且給LBJ空間。
        而LBJ也變成真.球員教頭了。LBJ不再在媒體面前噹Blatt,
        而球員私下的抱怨似乎也停止了。

    Not the same coach
        一個不一樣的教練

    Those who knew Blatt from Europe, where he was known as a fire-
    breather with players during games, were stunned at how he had
    changed. When Blatt was the coach of the Russian national team, he
    famously once kicked two of his best players off the bench because
    they were talking over him in a timeout. Now, spectators watched
    in awe as players barked at Blatt in timeouts. That was just one
    of many adjustments he made to try to make this unwieldy job work.
        認識並了解Blatt在歐洲執教風格的人都很驚訝她在NBA的轉變。
        畢竟Blatt曾經在歐洲時腳踹過明星球員。
        而Blatt風格的轉換也說明這個工作有多不適合他的本性。

    Blatt, meanwhile, retrofitted the Cavs' defensive system with his
    new players, and that helped launch the team's midseason
    turnaround. He melded in the new players effectively. He showed
    his experience as he found a way to give James space while looking
    for other ways to make a positive difference. At the same time,
    his yielding to the players -- James especially -- only further
    reinforced that Blatt wasn't a coach who demanded respect.
        Blatt在融入新球員進入球隊的防守陣式中居功厥偉,也是去年
        能季中翻轉的主因之一。他有效地融入新球員,並且依然讓LBJ主導
        進攻卻讓其他球員也有正面貢獻。
        然而他對LBJ得讓權也讓他喪失了更多球員間的尊敬。

    The respect issue presented itself again in the playoffs. With the
    Cavs playing a vital game in Chicago in the second round, James
    made perhaps the biggest undercutting of his coach of the entire
    season. He changed the final play of Game 4, which resulted in his
    hitting a game-winning 3-pointer that evened the series at 2-2 and
    effectively propelled the Cavs to the Finals. Blatt initially
    wanted James to inbound the ball, while James wanted the shot.
         而尊敬這個東東在去年季後賽對公牛賽又冒出來,
        在關鍵第四戰,LBJ劃掉了Blatt要她發球的戰術版,

        而這也改變了戰局,最後讓騎士得以逆轉戰局淘汰公牛。


    Star players consulting on a final play happens routinely. But the
    way James explained what happened made his continuing viewpoint of
    Blatt very transparent.
        明星球員跟教練要不同的戰術在常見不過,但是LBJ賽後訪問的說法
        卻證實他對Blatt的關係根本還是沒變。

    "To be honest, the play that was drawn up, I scratched it," he
    said.
        「說實話,Blatt畫的戰術,我把它畫掉了。」
        LBJ如是說
        (註:我覺得這邊做這樣的解釋有點勉強)

    That was after Blatt nearly cost the Cavs their chance at that
    shot when he called a timeout he didn't have, and official Scott
    Foster saved him by not granting the timeout, which otherwise
    would've resulted in a technical. The result, even at a pinnacle
    moment in the season, put Blatt in the spotlight for the wrong
    reasons.
        該場另一個重要的點是Blatt差點毀了比賽,他在不該喊暫停的時候示意暫停
        要不是裁判沒有準這個暫停,那Blatt就成為罪人了。不論如何,這件事
        也把Blatt放到聚光燈下,卻是一個不好的示範。

    Timeouts had been an issue already. Blatt mismanaged them early in
    the season and sometimes turned to Lue about when to execute
    certain timeouts. Teams can take advantage of certain mandatory
    timeouts and conserve options, something with which Blatt had
    issues. When he tried to explain what happened, he made the
    situation worse.
        事實上,喊暫停的時機也是去年Blatt被詬病的點。
        Blatt在賽中不時搞錯並且要詢問Lue。這是Blatt的缺點之一,不懂如何喊
        暫停的藝術。而當他試著要解釋為什麼喊暫停時機不好時,
        他讓事情聽起來更糟了。

    "A basketball coach makes 150 to 200 critical decisions during the
    course of a game, something that I think is paralleled only by a
    fighter pilot," Blatt said.
        「一個籃球教練每場球要做150-200個事關重大的決定,這就像
        飛行員一樣。」Blatt說

    Yet even some of the simplest tasks -- such as staying on message
    about the injury status of Anderson Varejao in the days leading up
    to the Finals -- he failed in executing. Varejao, out since
    December because of an Achilles tear, had hoped to return to the
    court in the championship round. The team decided against it.
    Rather than giving a straight answer about the center's
    availability in the Finals, Blatt hinted he could play by saying,
    "Stranger things have happened in this world."
        但是當一些最簡單的工作-譬如說了解球隊裡隊員的狀況-也沒做好時,
        這就沒有藉口了。
        大V2014年12月阿基里斯腱受傷,希望在冠軍賽付出。球團已經否決這項
        請求。但是Blatt受訪時選擇不直說,反而說他有可能會上場
        「世界上常常會發生一些奇怪的事喲」Blatt回答記者關於大V上場的問題時說

    When a team source was later informed of Blatt's quote about
    Varejao, he responded incredulously: "What the f--- is he doing?!"
        而當球隊告訴大V Blatt的回答時,大V大吼著
        「去他媽的他在說啥啊?」

    It was a turbulent season. By the end, however, Blatt had won over
    some critics for his managing of injuries during the postseason as
    the Cavs put a scare into the Golden State Warriors in the Finals,
    despite missing Love and Irving.
        去年是個波濤洶湧的球季,但是Blatt卻過關了。畢竟在傷兵的影響下
        能威脅到勇士是很了不起的成就。

    The second season
        第二季

    When the Cavs entered the 2015-16 season, both Blatt and James
    were determined to have a new outlook. Blatt said he wouldn't look
    to engage as much as his first season and admitted there was more
    of a learning curve than he had anticipated. James, after
    repeatedly blistering Blatt with commentary and overt on-court
    actions, decided he would attempt to support his coach as much as
    possible. Also, almost everyone on the roster was happy in new,
    more lucrative contracts. Everyone had decided they wanted to be
    there.
        本季一開始,Blatt和Lebron都決定要有一個不一樣的關係和開場。
        Blatt承認他第一季對球隊要求有點太過,而成長曲線也不如他的期待。
        Lebron不同於上一季不時露出對Blatt的不尊敬,也不斷地利用各種機會

        力挺教練。當然,球隊上每個人都更開心了-因為幾乎每個人都拿了個肥約。


    In a key moment after back-to-back losses in early November, James
    was perhaps as supportive of Blatt as he had ever been publicly.
        在11月一個重要的背靠背連敗後,LBJ在公開場合做出對Blatt最強而
        有力的力挺之一:

    "He does his job as great as any coach can do in this
    league," James said. "It's up to us to go out and produce."
        「他表現得不下聯盟任何一位教練,而球員必須要在場上負責」

    That was the strongest quote among others along those lines, and
    it seemed as if Year 2 with Blatt would be much smoother. The Cavs
    were performing reasonably well on the court. Despite a bad
    preseason, with Irving, Love, Mozgov and Shumpert still recovering
    from injuries and James recovering from an anti-inflammatory
    injection in his back, the Cavs got off to a strong 8-1 start.
        這是他今年力挺教練的眾多言論之一,所以看起來Blatt的第二季
        似乎很不錯呢。騎士隊季初雖然因為傷兵影響有個很糟糕的季前賽,
        但是季賽開局卻打得不錯,漂亮的8-1。

    But in reality, little had changed from the previous season, other
    than the rancor not spilling over publicly. James still made many
    decisions without consulting Blatt (once he took himself out of a
    game without saying anything and received a technical foul). It
    was clear the players still connected better with Lue, during both
    practices and games.
        可惜事實上,上季的問題幾乎沒受到解決。唯一的共識就是不要讓
        休息室的不合跳到檯面上。LBJ依然在場上做自己的決定-像是何時下場
        之類的。而也很明顯球員依然比較黏Lue,不論在場上或是場下。

    Much of the early season was spent plugging holes as Blatt managed
    a roster that was the banged up into early December. But just when
    everyone got healthy, things took a turn.
        季初很多時候球隊的精力都花費在如何補上傷兵的缺,這也是Blatt努力
        在做的。然而當每個人都健康的時候,事情反而出現了轉變。

    On Christmas Day, the Cavs made a much-anticipated visit to Golden
    State for a premier game on the NBA schedule. With a fully healthy
    roster, Blatt coached as if it were a playoff game, and he slashed
    his rotation. Richard Jefferson didn't play for the first time all
    season. Mo Williams and James Jones saw their minutes reduced.
    Roles were changed on the fly. Certainly, Blatt had to make some
    tough choices with the healthy roster, but all of them came as
    surprises to the players, and that triggered a cascade of anger
    and frustration.
        在聖誕節時,騎士客場對上期待已久的冠軍復仇戰。Blatt該場比賽
        用了季後賽的思維減少了他的輪替。RJ第一次一分鐘都沒打。毛威和JJ
        上場時間也大幅減少。球員的角色在一夕間都變了。沒錯,健康的陣容
        Blatt勢必要做出一些改變,但是Blatt並沒有對球員做溝通讓球員感受

        到很驚訝,而這件不大不小的事也造成了球員間憤怒和挫折的骨牌效應。


    Trouble grows on the road
        客場連戰讓麻煩與日遽升

    Although it might seem minor to offend back-end rotation players,
    the move ripped open some wounds from the previous season
    pertaining to the lack of respect for Blatt within the team.
    Privately, the players cursed Blatt, and their agents started
    complaining heavily behind the scenes. Whatever goodwill had been
    fostered seemed to be blowing up.
        是的,把板凳球員的時間減少不是大事,但是這件事卻翻開了上季
        休息室不和睦的一些舊傷口-關於Blatt的尊敬問題。
        私底下,球員開始幹剿Blatt,球員的經紀人也開始抱怨。
        本季一些美好的假象開始被戳破。

    The next night at a game in Portland, the Cavs put forth an
    embarrassing effort in a blowout loss to the Trail Blazers. They
    gave almost no effort and were out of the game from the start.
    Calling it a boycott game might be too strong, but there was a
    noticeable chill that enveloped the team.
        騎士在隔天對波特蘭基本上未戰先輸,說球員杯葛比賽或許太過,
        但是意思就是這樣。休息室冷到不行的氣氛也說明了此事。

    James tried to stick to his edict of not attacking Blatt in the
    media after the Cavs' next game, a win in Phoenix. The Suns were
    going through their own turmoil, with one star suspended (Markieff
    Morris) and another star out for the season because of impending
    surgery (Eric Bledsoe), not to mention Jeff Hornacek's having two
    of his coaches fired by ownership. Rather than pummel the Suns,
    the Cavs barely pulled off a win, with James visibly frustrated
    all night. He was terse in his postgame comments -- unlike his
    usual, engaging self.
        Lebron依然試著不公開指責教練。下一場比賽雖然打敗了問題更多的太陽,
        勉強地。但是很明顯Lebron打得很挫折,在賽後訪問他也表現得很不自然。
        (我記得這場比賽Lebron真的打得很爛,好像只投10球,五球是三分)


    The next night, the Cavs won in Denver, with James enjoying a
    turn-back-the-clock performance with family and friends in
    attendance on the eve of his 31st birthday. Overall, it was a
    sloppy game against a middling team, but it was a win. James was
    asked about his bizarre behavior in Phoenix -- both his demeanor
    on the court and his postgame remarks -- after most of the locker
    room had cleared out at the Pepsi Center.
        而背靠背第二戰隊上金塊隊,Lebron慶生行情打得還不錯,
        尤其很多親朋好友都來觀戰。然而球隊整體來說還是打得鳥鳥的。
        Lebron該場比賽賽後在休息室都清空後被問到了關於他最近表現
        不好的原因。

    "Thank God we play in the NBA, with a game the next day, and not
    the NFL," he said. "Because if it was the NFL, I would have went
    off and let the quotes fester for a week."
        Lebron回答:
        「感謝老天好險我們今天是在打NBA不是打NFL,否則我一場表現不好
        要被做文章一個禮拜還得了。」

    Watching it all was Griffin, who was on the trip with the team.
    The veteran Jones came to the GM at one point and told him, "I
    wouldn't want to be you," according to a source. Jones said it
    because he knew Griffin was dealing with the beginnings of an
    uprising.
        而把一切看在眼中的是Griffin,他一直都客場隨隊。
        JJ曾經跑去跟Griffin說「靠,我不會想做你的工作。」
        JJ表示他知道Griffin是要負責解決這一切的人。

    But the Cavs were still in first place. The team finished the trip
    salvaging a 2-2 record, but there was no ignoring the growing
    issues. After the players had two days off to celebrate the new
    year, they gathered for practice back in Cleveland.
        但是騎士隊依然是東區第一。客場連戰拿了個2-2。
        雖然不能忽視這些問題。球員有機會新年放兩天假,新年之後
        再回到主場練球。

    Griffin sat in on a film session and jumped on James for not
    getting back on defense against the Nuggets, one of his bad
    habits. James accepted the criticism in stride, sources said. But
    this moment only inspired less faith in Blatt because it is
    supposed to be the coach -- not the GM -- holding the players
    accountable.
        Griffin也跟球員一起在觀影室看比賽錄像。他會指責Lebron在對
        金塊時一些防守沒有到位的地方,這也是Lebron的老問題了。
        Lebron很自然地接受了Griffin的指責。但是這一個景象卻給其他球員
        不好的感覺,因為Blatt應該要負責做這件事,而不是球隊的GM。

    Within days, both Williams and Smith showed up late for games,
    arriving less than an hour before tipoff. Blatt said it was dealt
    with internally. Some around the team expressed surprise that
    multiple players did that, and it was thought of as another
    example of a lack of accountability.
        新年開始後沒多久,毛威和JR開始遲到。Blatt總是說這些事私底下
        會處理。但是球團很訝異不只一個球員這樣做,他們也認為Blatt
        對球員的管控已經出現裂痕。

    LeBron maintains public support
        Lebron依然公開的支持教練

    Still, James supported Blatt when given the chance. A couple days
    before the Cavs played a key game in San Antonio last week, he
    offered positive comments.
        然而,LBJ依然在任何機會都表達對Blatt的支持。
        在對上馬刺前,他依然表達正面的態度。

    "I think every game is another learning experience for Coach
    Blatt," James said. "There's coaches with more tenure in our
    league, obviously, and there's guys with a better résumé than he
    has. But one thing he tries to do is just put us in a position to
    win, and then it's up to us."
        「我認為任何一場比賽對教練來說都是學習的機會。當然有些教練年資更深
        也有些教練的履歷看起來更驚人。但是他試著想要把我們放在對的位置上去贏球,
        接下來就是決定於球員的表現了。」

    The Cavs lost to the Spurs. Then, in the most important home game
    of the season, on Martin Luther King Jr. Day against the Warriors,
    the Cavs were flattened by the defending champs' unrelenting
    attack.
        騎士輸給了馬刺。在季賽最重要的一場比賽裡慘敗給勇士。

    Playing expertly, Golden State destroyed Cleveland by 34 points
    and led by 43 points at one point. Gilbert sat next to the
    Cavs' bench until the bitter end. James spent much of the fourth
    quarter sitting in Blatt's seat on the bench and talking with Lue
    while Blatt stood a few feet away.
        在慘敗43分的比賽中,老闆一直坐在座位上。Lebron則一直在跟
        Lue交談。

    "That's my responsibility to get them ready, and our guys have got
    to be better than that, and they know that," Blatt said in
    accepting blame for the loss.
        Blatt在賽後說
        「是我的責任沒讓球員準備好,我們的球員當然也該表現更好,
        他們自己知道的。」

    After the game, James took care to not take aim at Blatt. He
    rebuffed a reporter when he tried to get James to pile on Blatt's
    comments.
        即使在賽後LBJ依然對教練沒有微辭,並且擋住了記者關於Blatt
        表現的提問。

    Meanwhile, Love had played poorly since Irving's return to the
    lineup, and he was not included effectively in the game plan
    against the Spurs or Warriors. In the next two games, a win in
    Brooklyn and a quality home win over the Los Angeles Clippers,
    Love piled up 35 points and 34 rebounds. Asked to explain the
    change, Love credited Irving -- not Blatt -- with making a
    strategy suggestion.
        同時間,Love在KI回來後適應不良。他對馬刺和勇士打得其爛無比。
        雖然他過去兩場總共拿下了35分34個籃板。但是當被問到有什麼改變時
        他把榮耀給了KI,而不是Blatt。

    Blatt, for his part, chided the media for not giving the team
    enough credit for being 30-11, despite an 0-3 record against the
    Spurs and Warriors.
        Blatt則與此同時還在跟媒體吵不要過分放大0-3對勇馬,要看30-11。

    "I hear a lot of far-reaching conclusions, and personally, I don't
    like it," he said. "I think this team is in pretty good position,
    although people choose to overlook that, which I don't think is
    fair."
        「我覺得你們看圖說故事,很不公平。」Blatt說

    The last straw
        最後一根稻草

    In the locker room after the Cavs beat the Clippers, Griffin
    noticed an absence of joy over a nice win. He saw Blatt's comments
    about how there isn't enough credit being given to the team,
    despite its $110 million payroll and extreme expectations.
        再擊敗西區強權快艇後的休息室裡,Griffin注意到休息室並沒有
        愉悅的氣氛。他看到Blatt對媒體說道媒體沒有給球隊足夠的褒獎。
        即使這是用錢堆積出來的。

    He knew the players would use Blatt as an excuse if they came up
    short again this season, and he would probably have to confront
    this issue at some point. He decided to confront it now.
        他看到了球員如果再次失敗會用Blatt作藉口,而他本人也必須要面對
        這樣的狀況。他選擇現在就面對。

    A little over one year after he and Gilbert decided to not let
    Blatt go, Griffin talked with Gilbert again. This time, there
    would be no vote of confidence. Griffin didn't call James or any
    other player. He met with Blatt and fired him, and he promoted
    Lue.
        Griffin和Gilbert再次做了交談,而這次他們也不需要去詢問球員
        的意見。他跟Blatt面談後火了他,然後他提拔了Lue。

    When the players were called together to receive the news, some
    thought a player had been traded, sources said. Several players
    speculated they were going to be told Love had been dealt. But it
    was Blatt.
        不少消息指出當球員接到Griffin的集合令時,有些人以為有球員被交易了。
        有不少球員猜測Love被交易走了。但是是Blatt。

    It was nothing James or Irving or Love or anyone said that got
    Blatt fired. If it had truly been up to James, sources said, Blatt
    might have been fired a year earlier. As it turned out, the
    actions of the entire team, Blatt included, over the past 15
    months brought Griffin to this conclusion.
        LKK並沒有說啥而導致Blatt被炒。消息指稱如果LBJ真的主導一切,那Blatt
        去年此時就已經掰了。而結果顯示,整隊,包括Blatt自己,在過去15個月
        裡面的作為讓Griffin做出這樣的決定。


    "This is supposed to be a results-oriented profession, and look at
    the results [Blatt] got," a source close to Blatt said. "This is
    unbelievable."
        一個親近Blatt的來源指出
        「這應該是個只看結果的運動,看看Blatt的輝煌戰果,這結果太神扯了。」

    There was surprise in the timing, but to the Cavaliers' locker
    room, the clues had been piling up for a while.
       然而對騎士休息室而言,他們驚訝的是時間點,但是結果應該早在
        預料之中。

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MobileComm: 雖然不一定每個都認同 不過這文章還真長 推!!1F 01/24 04:26
gigiii1134: 可以對JR & Mo罵髒話嗎?2F 01/24 04:32
a28200266: 比起WOJ那篇...這篇真的詳細多了3F 01/24 06:52
kart: 記者解釋的地方我覺得也是見仁見智,但是至少就回顧史而言加4F 01/24 07:13
kart: 上當下的一些quote,還是有助於了解一下事情始末的
lucky0623: No明顯擺爛啊!不過是我也會不爽...角色轉變太大6F 01/24 07:14
gm79227922: 去年一開始就有聽見對blatt不滿的聲音7F 01/24 07:30
gm79227922: 但是季中磨合成功 外加東冠這樣的聲音又消失
gm79227922: 沒想到最後還是躲不過
kart: Lue剛證實他的第一項改變就是增加輪替,並且會啟用Mo10F 01/24 07:35
McDaniel: 光是從Mo這位板凳得分好手被冰,就覺Blatt 不知道在想啥11F 01/24 07:40
McDaniel: 而且V也是跟LeBron搭配很有默契的內線球員,竟然也不用
McDaniel: 最後就是LeBron欽點的愛將JJ,又不是退化到不能打,也是
McDaniel: 丟在板凳深處,然後只用Delly 、Shumpert和TT,無怪乎被
McDaniel: 鬥走。唉......不知道Lue 能否把球員的士氣再凝聚起來,
McDaniel: 不要再讓球迷看到吐血了,特別是對上西區強權球隊
stereogun: 推薦這篇文章!17F 01/24 08:35
stereogun: 現在就要來期待Lue了,不知Lue的強項是什麼?
raychen0322: 覺得教練跟球員間文化差太多了 騎士現在的確需要冠軍19F 01/24 08:41
tliu223: Mo是得分好手  但也同樣是防守漏洞啊20F 01/24 08:50
tliu223: 只希望球隊不要變成明明還沒建功立業就個個盯著自己的
tliu223: 出場時間的球隊……
nctucch17170: Woj那篇真的是嘩眾取信 根本沒有流程可言23F 01/24 09:01
nctucch17170: 這篇就跟我認知中LBJ會做的作法相符
JayFans0610: Lue有出來說他會比Blatt做的更好,也提到會將多放在25F 01/24 09:03
JayFans0610: 高位,因為他能打的更舒服,更提到他跟LeBron講會讓
JayFans0610: 他先負起責任,在將其他人依序加進來
tliu223: 總之全隊都要皮繃緊點了,戰績不理想的話,到季末會很被28F 01/24 09:07
tliu223: 動的……
nctucch17170: 戰術豐富度會輸布總 但整合度和一致性會更好 或許就30F 01/24 09:07
nctucch17170: 是更好的結果 這幾場就能驗證看看了XD
coldbreeze: 推 這季常覺得騎士對勝利的渴求不足 老是不肯拚 很怪32F 01/24 09:29
chenlansue: 我倒覺得可以跟woj那篇一起服用 兩篇有補足效應33F 01/24 09:39
kyrie1207: 推原po  然後老莫真的很難用啊XD34F 01/24 09:40
chenlansue: blatt被炒本來就是很多問題的最後角力後的解答 而不是35F 01/24 09:41
chenlansue: 單一是管理層or姆斯的決定  人與人的關係本來就複雜
chenlansue: 把姆斯想成全然邪惡or單純都只是過度簡化的思維而已
chenlansue: 我覺得姆斯團隊去年有要搞blatt 但是jackson不能入主
chenlansue: 後就已拿冠軍為主  這次的開除反而是管理層下手
chenlansue: 姆斯背黑鍋....
Lacus0827: LBJ的個性造成這件事早晚會爆發 然後現在爆發了41F 01/24 09:50
handsomerson: 不要愛神何必簽大約呢42F 01/24 10:50
ddban: 推k大的翻譯 希望Lue能重整隊伍43F 01/24 12:17
bosskiss00: 借轉44F 01/24 12:49

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lmf770410   : 先推再看1F 01/24 12:53
Malpais     : 你可以不相信Woj 但他不是隨便一個yahoo記者……2F 01/24 12:54
ClariS344   : 1分5籃板  姆斯我老闆3F 01/24 12:54
encorej77107: 漂白文4F 01/24 12:55

這篇沒有要漂白誰的用意

只是把整個過程從去年到今年回顧而已

整篇還蠻有內容的  建議從頭看到尾

AngelNo13   : "不少球員猜測Love被交易走了"XDD5F 01/24 12:56
※ 編輯: bosskiss00 (59.127.247.218), 01/24/2016 12:57:23
gary360     : 什麼時候ESPN比WOJ還準確了?6F 01/24 12:56
freemail    : 原來有騎士版7F 01/24 12:57
jackysuyu   : 只要不順詹皇的意 WOJ都能被某些人講成隨便的記者XD8F 01/24 12:57
Aggro       : 怎感覺下一個會出事的是Love阿XD9F 01/24 12:58
mmchen      : 原來Woj是隨便沒什麼內線的記者XDDD10F 01/24 12:59
Heimdallwind: 不管真實度 這篇還滿有條理的11F 01/24 12:59
yoshro      : 推 看完惹12F 01/24 12:59
formap      : Woj 隨便 沒有內線?你是不是誤會了什麼13F 01/24 12:59
gary360     : 還故意把WOJ說成是隨便一個yahoo記者也是夠好笑14F 01/24 12:59
littlehouse : 這..."隨便一個沒太多內線的yahoo記者" XDDD15F 01/24 13:00
bestteam    : LBJ這篇的感覺根本像雙面刀鬼 怕被人說趕走教練16F 01/24 13:00
yoshro      : 你愛不是有不在團隊中的傳聞17F 01/24 13:00
scatology   : 我相信Woj18F 01/24 13:00
jackhoward  : 整篇都漂白粉 的確很有內容19F 01/24 13:00
bestteam    : 就在公開場合稱讚他 但私底下不理他也放任休息室20F 01/24 13:00
gary360     : 這篇還是窩在騎士版就好了吧21F 01/24 13:01
bestteam    : 的風向 他可是休息室的老大耶22F 01/24 13:01
Aggro       : 想想也很合理 起碼檯面上要挺 私底下是另回事23F 01/24 13:01
chinhan1216 : 你確定是ESPN 不是忠添?24F 01/24 13:01
whitestripe : kart說不要把woj當神拜  結果自己拿什麼鬼出來 哈25F 01/24 13:01
gox1117     : 我信WOJ26F 01/24 13:01
ClariS344   : 姆斯團隊中應該也有記者吧  事業做這麼大27F 01/24 13:02
jimmy5680   : Woj不是沒失準過,但說他沒內線...28F 01/24 13:02
Heimdallwind: woj在姆斯團隊沒有內線消息源沒錯啦29F 01/24 13:02
whitestripe : 我就是因為kart這種人討厭lbj的30F 01/24 13:02
jackhoward  : 不好意思補個噓31F 01/24 13:03
lisunlo     : 推32F 01/24 13:03
ghghfftjack : 不會啊這篇看完我覺得還算持平33F 01/24 13:03
ghghfftjack : 1.球隊文化很廢 2.LBJ有很大責任 3.教練也有不少問
ghghfftjack : 題
yoshro      : 這有漂白嗎? 不是把雙方的問題點出來了36F 01/24 13:03
gary360     : 信ESPN卻不信WOJ 也只有某些人會這樣37F 01/24 13:04
yoshro      : 但會認為喇叭沒影響的才有問題吧.....38F 01/24 13:04
Aggro       : 其實教練也很衰 他本來要來重整的 結果接手要拼冠軍39F 01/24 13:04
skyoo00     : 這篇說得很好  就是腿詹小圈圈逼宮40F 01/24 13:04
Aggro       : 喇叭問題比較像是只有表面應付 其實貌合神離41F 01/24 13:05
lest83      : 這邊不也提到最原始的點在於跟LBJ的關係在慢慢的擴42F 01/24 13:05
RonaldBBS   : 教練的問題是啥 姆斯那套又拿不到冠軍43F 01/24 13:05
andy78714   : WOJ才可信44F 01/24 13:05
lest83      : 散到其他部分嗎45F 01/24 13:05
lest83      : 這樣頂多是說這篇跟woj的觀點沒大衝突阿
YYL00       : 我是不太了解河流受人推崇的理由....47F 01/24 13:06
RodrigueZ810: 拜託上面推文別刪 讓大家看看平行世界48F 01/24 13:06
marx0126    : 翻譯LBJ不爽教練 結案49F 01/24 13:07
lest83      : Woj比較著重在描寫LBJ與他經紀人那邊而已50F 01/24 13:07
Aggro       : 之前有人說過一個原因是他是少數黑人球員拿冠軍51F 01/24 13:07
heavensun   : River打敗過LBJ, LBJ當然推崇他52F 01/24 13:07
verydisco   : 那麼喜歡河流 找他過來不就好了 保證快艇騎士都開心53F 01/24 13:07
Aggro       : 會讓人有認同感 不知道是不是真的這樣就是了54F 01/24 13:07
RicFlair    : 隨便一個沒太多內線的yahoo記者 呵呵55F 01/24 13:08
Aggro       : CP3也很愛河流阿 快艇不會隨便開除的56F 01/24 13:08
Heimdallwind: 姆斯感覺像別鬧到檯面上就好 私底下互譙互幹他不太57F 01/24 13:08
Heimdallwind: 介入 blatt留著或換新教練試試 都可
heavensun   : 應該交易教練  拿Blatt和Clipper換River59F 01/24 13:08
iandol      : 這一切可能不是喇棒主導 但不可能無關60F 01/24 13:08
lmeet5566   : 整篇文章8成都在寫blatt 的問題 還以為在看中屎61F 01/24 13:09
Night       : WOJ沒內線XDD 代表沒再跟交易截止日的第一手消息吧62F 01/24 13:09
hellopillow : 反正騎士不要換了教練開始走下坡就好63F 01/24 13:09
coldbreeze  : LBJ一直不太喜歡他 這時候換教練 只表示沒意見 也不64F 01/24 13:11
Malpais     : Woj 是美國籃壇記者界的大咖 twitter有118萬追蹤 被65F 01/24 13:11
Malpais     : 批踢踢的詹迷講成隨便一個yahoo記者 唉
coldbreeze  : 行? 一定要強烈反對才可以? 酸民也只會說作秀吧 LBJ67F 01/24 13:12
swimbert    : 完全就是一篇為騎士擦脂抹粉的報導68F 01/24 13:12
coldbreeze  : 做什麼都錯吧 酸民也只會這樣想69F 01/24 13:12
megumirei   : 但是騎士球員,尤其老鳥們,把它當成NBA菜鳥來看 嗯70F 01/24 13:13
skyoo00     : 沒辦法 原PO是腿詹得體狂熱粉絲  黑的都可以說成白71F 01/24 13:13
skyoo00     : 有點邱毅的感覺
jackysuyu   : LBJ跟他的那個偉大的經紀人就是最大的禍根啊73F 01/24 13:13
ssaw5166    : 翻譯:一切都跟母獅無關 都是別人的錯74F 01/24 13:14
jackysuyu   : 不要再幫LBJ解釋這次開除教練他只是沒說不 用膝蓋想75F 01/24 13:14
jackysuyu   : 都知道完完全全就是LBJ下達的聖旨
w35413541   : 所以這篇就是各打五十大板,然後還有喇叭管不動小弟77F 01/24 13:15
gary360     : LBJ不倒 騎士不會好78F 01/24 13:15
jackysuyu   : 所以這篇就是取暖文代表 因為事實恰恰相反所有人都79F 01/24 13:15
uuss        : 姆粉的反擊80F 01/24 13:16
jackysuyu   : 在LBJ掌控中一個口令一個動作81F 01/24 13:16
hotfeer     : 開除也好 不然以後沒冠軍是因為教練不夠好82F 01/24 13:16
a28200266   : 你膝蓋不太好 要小心點83F 01/24 13:16
megumirei   : 但是騎士球員,尤其<老鳥們>,把它當成NBA菜鳥來看84F 01/24 13:16
coldbreeze  : 一切都是LBJ的陰謀就對了? 哈哈哈 了解85F 01/24 13:17
megumirei   : NBA球員身份地位 可以目中無人了 乾脆你來當教練啊86F 01/24 13:18
z2114422    : ESPN是LBJ迷不是眾所皆知嗎87F 01/24 13:18
jackysuyu   : 球員好好聽從教練的指示這不是天經地義的事嗎?KOBE88F 01/24 13:19
zonezone    : 標準腿迷護航文,一切都不是 LBJ的錯,都是 they的89F 01/24 13:19
zonezone    : 錯
jackysuyu   : 跟喬丹都沒這樣越權過 只能說LBJ的籃球想比其他球星91F 01/24 13:19
jackysuyu   : 的純粹動機實在是複雜的太多了
MK12        : 看完了 覺得沒有漂白LBJ啊....感覺都很糟....93F 01/24 13:20
MK12        : 然而對騎士休息室而言,他們驚訝的是時間點
MK12        : 但結果早在預料之中  Y
zonezone    : 也只有腿迷會把 Woj當作小咖看待,只因為他說了 LBJ96F 01/24 13:21
zonezone    : 壞話
kai08130623 : ESPN創一堆進階數據捧詹啊98F 01/24 13:22
liusim      : 加入lbj開的經紀公司就有尊敬了99F 01/24 13:22
megumirei   : 我已經到了不需要我特別去請示什麼戰術的年紀了100F 01/24 13:22
Aggro       : 我比較在意Love的位置 看起來很不穩阿101F 01/24 13:22
megumirei   : \0W0/當教練!\0W0/當教練!\0W0/當教練!\0W0/當教練!102F 01/24 13:22
MK12        : 看來Love關係不好 也是事實103F 01/24 13:23
KobeYaMeTe  : 腿腿最哈這味104F 01/24 13:24
liusim      : 綜合記者的文 lbj是發言得體的雙面人= =?105F 01/24 13:25
turbomons   : 記者心證有點多 不過是看得出一些脈絡106F 01/24 13:26
frozenmoon  : 這篇比較客觀全面一些107F 01/24 13:26
bredka      : ESPN不意外...108F 01/24 13:26
liusim      : 他開的經紀公司對球隊人事的決策有多少影響,基本不109F 01/24 13:27
liusim      : 言而喻吧
ppccfvy     : 政治正確,腿媒不意外111F 01/24 13:28
Aggro       : 應該說表面功夫做得很夠 實際上又是另一回事112F 01/24 13:29
zag98131    : 用心好文113F 01/24 13:29
chinhan1216 : 我是蠻懷疑到底有多少媒體被滲透了114F 01/24 13:29
frozenmoon  : 社會和職場上遇到的真實情況大概都像這樣115F 01/24 13:29
a7v333      : 推116F 01/24 13:30
aifor3      : 還不就是幾個綠血迷和科迷在噓嗎? jacky,girtas,ch117F 01/24 13:30
aifor3      : ihan1212,gary360
aifor3      : z810在帶風向啊?!
frozenmoon  : 沒有真正的壞人,但各自衝突和影響下會造成不同結果120F 01/24 13:31
aifor3      : 反正不管怎樣一定要說lbj錯 他們才覺得爽121F 01/24 13:31
YYL00       : 雙g其實蠻好笑的XD122F 01/24 13:31
liusim      : 覺得woj的文跟這篇沒什麼衝突的地方123F 01/24 13:32
frozenmoon  : 去年兄弟領隊也是決定用吳復連換掉謝長廷當總教頭124F 01/24 13:32
fishlinghu  : LBJ不可能有錯啊 這篇報導亂寫一通 根本科迷記者125F 01/24 13:32
liusim      : 謝長亨啦126F 01/24 13:32
kimisawa    : 等一下,kobe沒有對抗過教練?平行世界喔,科迷不要127F 01/24 13:32
kimisawa    : 這麼噁心好嗎?老大搞蛋東尼不是沒多久前的事吧
frozenmoon  : e04 打成謝長廷129F 01/24 13:33
Heimdallwind: 謝長廷XDD130F 01/24 13:33
MK12        : WOJ 跟這篇真的沒衝突+1 剛好可以搭起來131F 01/24 13:33
aifor3      : 跟我預測的差不多啊,blatt以為自己是歐洲老鳥無法132F 01/24 13:34
aifor3      : 適應被當菜鳥
ClariS344   : 不要亂搭134F 01/24 13:34
ClariS344   : 沒什麼內線的yahoo記者好嗎
aifor3      : 高估自己的威望,加上lbj又不挺  帶不動就gg136F 01/24 13:35
yeustream   : 滿詳細的,推~137F 01/24 13:35
aifor3      : 只能說球員教練彼此不信任138F 01/24 13:36
hansingi    : 這篇也沒幫腿詹漂白 腿詹只是嘴巴挺Blatt 私下根本139F 01/24 13:36
hansingi    : 不甩教練
aj0938      : 有幾個抹黑抹到失心瘋了 收買記者都出來了XDD141F 01/24 13:36
aifor3      : lbj完全沒有鬥走blatt的必要  因為他已經是lbj的形142F 01/24 13:37
aifor3      : 狀了
encorej77107: 笑死這還不是鬥走喔 這種牌子球星 球星沒默認144F 01/24 13:38
encorej77107: 同意球團敢在東區第一時換教練
encorej77107: 騙三歲小孩吧
kai08130623 : 今年季後賽再輸換掉沒意見 現在是換什麼意思?147F 01/24 13:40
kai08130623 : 又挑Kobe出來救援 當初安東尼帶湖人難道是西區第一?
a28200266   : 起碼不是像現在西區第一 教練還穩穩地 只因會舔科149F 01/24 13:43
kai08130623 : 現在的湖人換教練也不會打進季後賽 換幹嘛?150F 01/24 13:44
kimisawa    : 樓樓上, 請往前看@jackysuyu的文好嗎151F 01/24 13:44
aifor3      : lbj一定是什麼都不管啊  以他個性本來就這樣152F 01/24 13:44
aifor3      : 反正換不換blatt對他又沒差
simon0987   : 河流最讓人推崇的就是他跟球員的關係啊==154F 01/24 13:45
kimisawa    : 他說球員就該聽教練的連老大都沒越權過.這說的出口.155F 01/24 13:45
MK12        : Love跟KI 也換吧 這樣比較有趣156F 01/24 13:45
aifor3      : 倒是怎麼感覺blatt失業比酸酸老爸失業還嚴重==157F 01/24 13:46
a28200266   : 難道當年丹東尼會進lol?他當年最慘連板凳都沒人耶158F 01/24 13:46
a28200266   : 只剩一個沙揆躺在上面睡覺 難道你希望他打進
simon0987   : Kobe LBJ等等明星球員都曾經公開說想給rivers帶160F 01/24 13:46
a28200266   : river很會處理球員阿 戰術的話..1:3 u know161F 01/24 13:47
kai08130623 : Kobe如果在球隊分區第一時把教練鬥走再通知大家好嗎162F 01/24 13:48
kimisawa    : 要幹LBJ可以, 但不要偷渡漂白老大163F 01/24 13:48
jackysuyu   : 看到BLATT受到不公平對待導致失業還不許別人幫他說?164F 01/24 13:48
jackysuyu   : 好大的官威啊
a28200266   : 所以分區第一教練閃人=鬥走教練166F 01/24 13:48
a28200266   : 公開放話鬥教練->戰績不好 沒關係
kai08130623 : 沒有漂白啊 Kobe會逼球隊補強 不爽MB 可是他不會在168F 01/24 13:49
kai08130623 : 球隊分區第一時鬥走教練 很難懂嗎?
encorej77107: lbj沒有公開放話過 又是哪個平行時空阿170F 01/24 13:49
jackysuyu   : 戰績不好教練當然有理由要負責請問戰績好該做的都做171F 01/24 13:50
jackysuyu   : 了是要負責什麼????
aifor3      : 哪有不公平啊  你當主管本來就要會帶心啊173F 01/24 13:50
kimisawa    : 等一下, 跟第一沒有關係, 是有人說老大不會越權174F 01/24 13:50
encorej77107: 去年放話今年貌合神離175F 01/24 13:50
egghard29   : LBJ想保持形象不沾鍋 但這反而越描越黑176F 01/24 13:50
a28200266   : 戰績不好 鬥教練是沒問題的喔177F 01/24 13:50
kai08130623 : 連這點邏輯都搞不懂 就把老招牌科維拉推出來 真是瞎178F 01/24 13:50
kimisawa    : 有人說球員聽教練天經地義...你自己的話不是?179F 01/24 13:50
aifor3      : 戰績好  打不贏指標性強隊  老闆不會有意見嗎?180F 01/24 13:51
a28200266   : 今年戰績更爛 怎麼不來鬥一下 教練會捧阿181F 01/24 13:51
heavensun   : KOBE不會越權否決教練戰術~  雖然他自己常出手過多182F 01/24 13:51
jackysuyu   : 老闆有意見(X)LBJ看不爽很久了(O)183F 01/24 13:51
a28200266   : kobe不會否決戰術XDDDDD184F 01/24 13:51
encorej77107: 不是迷迷最愛說季賽都沒參考性嗎185F 01/24 13:51
egghard29   : 說完全不知道炒教練 別說討厭他的 連騎士迷都不信吧186F 01/24 13:52
jackysuyu   : WOJ都說了LBJ已經看教練不爽很久了怎麼還是有人當不187F 01/24 13:52
encorej77107: 前幾年不是一直列 季賽輸誰輸誰 季後賽就贏了188F 01/24 13:52
DSun        : 推這篇 夠詳細189F 01/24 13:52
jackysuyu   : 知道啊....190F 01/24 13:52
kimisawa    : 柯迷真是無下限...老大不會否決戰術????191F 01/24 13:52
encorej77107: 怎麼突然又變成季賽輸強隊很嚴重192F 01/24 13:52
aifor3      : 很多球員都会參與戰術吧193F 01/24 13:52
kimisawa    : 我只是對有些人美化老柯感到惡心啊...194F 01/24 13:53
aifor3      : 看不爽教練這麼主觀的事,lbj不說其他人是要用猜的195F 01/24 13:53
aifor3      : 膩
encorej77107: 老大哪需要美化 迷迷比較需要對她們的雙重標準護航197F 01/24 13:54
ghchen1978  : 這不就說明LBJ不鳥教練結果就害她被火198F 01/24 13:54
a28200266   : KB的球給我 我帶你們回家你不知道?身為科迷不知道?199F 01/24 13:54
aifor3      : 雙重標準不是老科粉最會做的事?200F 01/24 13:54
a28200266   : 注意喔 還是新人的時候201F 01/24 13:54
encorej77107: Love me or hate me202F 01/24 13:54
ghchen1978  : 不管LBJ有沒有授意,他是害教練被火的主因阿!!203F 01/24 13:55
aifor3      : 有沒有用心吧 spo一開始也帶不動lbj啊204F 01/24 13:55
a28200266   : 或許是因為LBJ不挺他 但跟鬥掉差很多吧205F 01/24 13:56
aifor3      : 後來還不是可以206F 01/24 13:56
aifor3      : blatt本身就跟球員有距離感,你看mo和jr
morris50812 : 純噓喇叭208F 01/24 13:56
jackysuyu   : LBJ只有不挺他這大概只有某些人相信209F 01/24 13:57
web946719   : 茶壺風暴 Season2210F 01/24 13:57
a28200266   : 沒證據只能拿膝蓋出來也是某些人才會做211F 01/24 13:57
aifor3      : 我可以理解blatt原本是歐洲老教頭卻要被當作菜鳥的212F 01/24 13:57
aifor3      : 感覺
jackysuyu   : 有點理解能力的看一下最近所有報導都知道主使者是誰214F 01/24 13:57
a28200266   : 你膝蓋真的不太好 建議你多吃維骨力215F 01/24 13:58
aifor3      : 我看是腦補能力吧zzz216F 01/24 13:58
fw2009tc    : 我不覺得這篇跟Woj有衝突啊 在記者面前LBJ雖然說好217F 01/24 13:58
fw2009tc    : 話 但光是上季東冠搶戰術版就知道他的態度了吧
web946719   : LBJ夾在球員跟管理中間 真的表態才慘吧219F 01/24 13:58
aifor3      : 本來就是詹酸了  還要假客觀,我是覺得沒什麼說服力220F 01/24 13:58
aifor3      : 啦…
jackysuyu   : WOJ都說了是LBJ趕走的怎麼還是有人不肯面對現實222F 01/24 13:59
a28200266   : 這樣說好啦 如果LBJ人前人後做兩套 馬上就被隊友婊223F 01/24 13:59
aifor3      : lbj還是什麼都不做最好啊224F 01/24 13:59
RodrigueZ810: 姆迷又想操作成科詹惡鬥了 嘻嘻 好像好像225F 01/24 13:59
aeiou335    : 就算是事實 但你說woj沒內線可能就太漂白囉226F 01/24 13:59
a28200266   : 隊友跟他不同隊還不出來打落水狗?227F 01/24 13:59
a28200266   : 反正也只要匿名球員就好啦 新聞最愛搞這套
aifor3      : woj證據拿出來啊  不能因為他是有名的記者全盤都吃229F 01/24 14:00
aifor3      : 啊
kimisawa    : 明明是有先人突然插一句話說老大不會鬥教練...231F 01/24 14:01
jackysuyu   : LBJ跟他經濟人在籃球圈權力越來越大這就是可怕的點232F 01/24 14:01
aifor3      : 反正 詹酸也只吃可以酸的素材啦233F 01/24 14:01
a28200266   : WOJ那篇原文自己看一下吧....老調重彈234F 01/24 14:02
berry07     : 連鬥教練都想當第一人235F 01/24 14:02
Heimdallwind: 換都換了 接下來贏球就ㄧ切向前看船過水無痕 輸球就236F 01/24 14:03
Heimdallwind: 能炒作的題材越來越多囉
a28200266   : 去年1月多WOJ就有類似言論了 根本只是拿出來重寫238F 01/24 14:03
vermilionred: 這邊也太多拿woj自慰的人了吧239F 01/24 14:03
jackysuyu   : 哀永遠叫不醒裝睡的人 LBJ行為都已經明顯成這樣240F 01/24 14:03
momowawa1981: 結論還是詹友友在搞怪啊!誰讓他們這樣搞?241F 01/24 14:04
momowawa1981: 答案很明顯 呵呵
aifor3      : 酸酸還想裝清流,笑死我XD243F 01/24 14:05
vermilionred: 真可悲欸 看到一篇報導射一次244F 01/24 14:06
alan54786   : 詹友會聯合造反245F 01/24 14:08
balire2351  : 很明顯腿詹就是雙面人 腿迷沒必要護航了吧...很難246F 01/24 14:09
balire2351  : 看
aifor3      : 不表態也要被當雙面人……酸酸好樣的248F 01/24 14:11
allen325s   : 都是THEY的錯只有我腿詹成熟DIRTY也一直是腿迷認知249F 01/24 14:18
matthew0123 : 腿迷真的什麼都拿老柯救援欸250F 01/24 14:19
cmid05      : 推翻譯251F 01/24 14:20
blackdevil  : 看完後只覺得LBJ需要的教練是朋友就好,甚至擺個西252F 01/24 14:20
blackdevil  : 瓜就好,難搞的主力跟其經紀人
sinben      : "如果LBJ真的主導一切,那Blatt去年此時就已經掰了"254F 01/24 14:20
Clapeyron   : 姆蜜只要內容不是把矛頭指向他主子,什麼胡扯的文章255F 01/24 14:22
Clapeyron   : 都會覺得中肯
sinben      : 但事實上從Blatt當上騎士教頭 Lebron累積的行為 正257F 01/24 14:22
sinben      : 導致現在的結果 要説不是他造成的 根本就強詞奪理
Xhocer      : NBA球員的自我膨脹259F 01/24 14:25
c7683fh6    : 我信Woj Woj沒讓人失望過260F 01/24 14:33
train2009   : woj不是隨便的yahoo記者  公信力跟yahoo本身不同261F 01/24 14:34
train2009   : 不過本文沒看到姆斯跟富保羅出建議  到底有沒有這事
train2009   : ?
c7683fh6    : Blatt還是去帶年輕球隊吧 對騎士和他都好的結果264F 01/24 14:34
C00L        : 姆教徒版的推文果然是一言堂XD 而且ID毫不意外~265F 01/24 14:35
Duncan7406  : Kart你也把Woj講得太不公正了 即便他偶爾也會出錯266F 01/24 14:36
Duncan7406  : 這件事問題最大的是騎士球團 也許不是LBJ主導 但跟
Duncan7406  : 他無關不太可能
larson      : 先不管公信力的問題,Blatt不是不能換,但在這個時間269F 01/24 14:40
larson      : 點被換掉,換來的還是Lue,就很難不被認為有隱情
iandol      : 明明戰績第一卻下台,怎麼看都會有點詭異吧271F 01/24 14:53
iandol      : 假如是請到禪師教皇等級的教練倒還好,請到Lue??
iandol      : !很難不聯想是被鬥掉
p23475617   : 推推 沒必要把結果歸咎一個人274F 01/24 14:55
royan0609   : 前幾篇的內容與這篇並沒有衝突 前幾篇說的是場邊觀275F 01/24 15:04
royan0609   : 察 這篇只是要突顯Blatt被換並不是毫無來由 也似乎
royan0609   : 沒那麼無辜 無論如何LeBron 在場邊的各種作為仍是
royan0609   : 眾人共見 也是他飽受爭議的原因 只是看你想帶著多
royan0609   : 少愛去解讀而已
CerMerlan   : 你知道woj的命中率嗎?隨便?280F 01/24 15:04
Michael1125 : 隨便一個記者?281F 01/24 15:05
goodjohn08  : 感謝分享282F 01/24 15:08
Wavecloud   : 兩篇文章各自點出雙方問題 都脫不了關係的...283F 01/24 15:09
Wavecloud   : ESPN就LBJ方在操弄的 Woj寫的就是他們不能寫的
Yuma38      : 標準姆斯洗白文 都是別人的錯 我家姆斯最乖了285F 01/24 15:10
potterpig   : 支持球技就算了 姆斯出來選總統他們大概也會投吧286F 01/24 15:14
Wavecloud   : 某迷抹黑Woj真的太扯 把剛花大錢簽他的yahoo當傻子287F 01/24 15:17
Wavecloud   : 把Woj講的只要跟LBJ的團隊有關的新聞他都不準
lolggqq     : 事實總是跟酸酸腦補的不一樣289F 01/24 15:23
nuclear     : Woj講其他都很準 一講到我皇就忽然變造謠的小記者了290F 01/24 15:27
zeches2001  : 所以是"壓垮駱駝最後一隻大猩猩"降?291F 01/24 15:27
stocktonty  : 想知道朋黨搞走教練的下場 不如參考當初的活塞吧292F 01/24 15:28
agffkjgbi   : 就算沒放過一鉛293F 01/24 15:28
stocktonty  : 什麼問題都推到教練頭上還真是方便294F 01/24 15:28
LukeTD      : 不管啦 我姆斯最乖了 場上認真 場下單純295F 01/24 15:34
megumirei   : 歐洲POPO得不到尊重 LUE的等級比他高? 這不是鬥爭?296F 01/24 15:36
megumirei   : 把身經百戰的姜維換掉 換黃皓當軍師..君主智力低下
maderfucker : 我寧願相信WOJ298F 01/24 15:38
yeiloud     : 雙方不合就好聚好散吧  blatt也不愁沒好工作299F 01/24 15:42
mikeneko    : 整隊的死屁孩,連教練都不聽乾脆省下錢別請教練好了300F 01/24 15:43
mikeneko    : LBJ愛畫戰術板讓他畫一整場啊
JotaroKaga  : 卡特教頭的水準一直都不意外阿 假設這篇為真話那代302F 01/24 15:47
JotaroKaga  : 表腿詹表裡不一的言行比原本單純鬥教練更讓人噁心
kaede0711   : 把LBJ的團隊因素切離騎士的政治操作實在過度不合理304F 01/24 16:01
kaede0711   : 不管克里夫蘭當地的媒體與球隊公關怎樣欲蓋彌彰
kaede0711   : LBJ的整個團隊(包括他本人)都不可能跟此事毫無關係
zxccasd     : 呵呵 姆斯最乖惹了啦307F 01/24 16:06
zxccasd     : 姆斯還是繼續躲東區 當亞軍吧  呵呵
monmo       : 這篇跟Woj那篇不衝突,更凸顯講他是隨便記者太情緒309F 01/24 16:09
monmo       : 用事,這篇不過更凸顯LBJ在事件中的關鍵性不是嗎?
monmo       : 不讓權給LBJ不爽不配合,讓權換隊友不爽不配合,偏
monmo       : 偏球員又以LBJ馬首是瞻,Blatt就算不是被直接逼走,
monmo       : 問題癥結也很明顯了
aikensh     : 姆斯專屬翻譯團隊出動拉314F 01/24 16:12
monmo       : 我不懂的事,Lue又不是Fisher有禪師罩,不是Walton315F 01/24 16:14
monmo       : 有代理實績,不是老基有輝煌生涯,很多助教經歷比他
monmo       : 多的球員當主帥都很慘,Lue甚至要簽複數年約,這賭
monmo       : 超大耶,如果要換人,騎士又要多付一筆,是真把老
monmo       : 闆當銀行?
vergilmir   : 這篇是漂白文???? 為什麼我看完更討厭LBJ諾?320F 01/24 16:23
vergilmir   : 跟本就是補完前面那篇,教練退讓LBJ得寸進尺
allmygod    : 結果休息室風暴跟本姆斯自己起頭...第一季造成。322F 01/24 17:02
allmygod    : 這也不算WOJ說錯,明顯第一季當對上老大時候根本無
thegod13    : 全隊80水土不服的資深總教練324F 01/24 17:04
allmygod    : 視教練,搞的教練必須退讓。放權給姆斯後 整個被球325F 01/24 17:04
allmygod    : 員們瞧不起。第二季要彌補難度很高 畢竟都原班人馬
allmygod    : 放權後 姆斯第二季想彌平傷痕 結果球員們也不受安撫
allmygod    : 只不過調個度而已就學上季姆斯老大開始大小聲
jeremyZH    : 辛苦了329F 01/24 17:21
KOEI56      : 姆斯如果給Popo帶因為直接被冰到板凳深出了吧330F 01/24 17:27
alankira    : 這篇是跟騎士關係密切的記者寫的,當然不會把LBJ寫331F 01/24 17:27
alankira    : 得太難看(寫太難看他還要混嗎)
KOEI56      : 姆斯不會以為有兩冠代表自己很屌吧 還不是靠互相抱333F 01/24 17:28
KOEI56      : 腿來的 真以為自己很罩?
alankira    : 認真講,這樣看起來LBJ真的很不挺這個教練,他只是335F 01/24 17:28
alankira    : 在公開場合給他面子而已。
pointer258  : espn337F 01/24 17:33
allmygod    : 姆斯根本小蟲進階版吧...POPO當初直接賤價交易小蟲338F 01/24 17:39
yobi        : 這篇至少是自始至末把發生過的事串在一起再合理推測339F 01/24 17:46
Acehole     : 推340F 01/24 18:04
coiico      : 讓板凳末端也有上場時間 這代表本來的輪值時間減少341F 01/24 18:14
coiico      : 齊頭式的公平不代表公平啊~
Jiummay     : 這篇像長期在國民黨工作的記者,講國民黨很不錯一樣343F 01/24 18:20
hd0485      : 反正無論如何LBJ也拿不到冠軍344F 01/24 18:38
manimani    : 工三小345F 01/24 19:08
sagesrock   : 超漂白 台面上講話越好聽 私底下的陰招越多 lbj一向346F 01/24 19:28
sagesrock   : 如此
jagr        : Woj好歹也是業界公認數一數二的內幕記者,要被說成348F 01/24 20:06
jagr        : 隨便一個沒太多內線的yahoo記者也太小看人了

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