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作者 p633 (Love & Peace)
標題 Re: [花邊] 知名訓練師開噴嫌棄大三分時代論述
時間 Sun Dec 22 20:35:34 2024


原文只是拋磚引玉,後來有想到,改成「空心」才得三分,
可能國際賽也會有影響,因為可能在NBA,平常變得少在三分線外後撤步,
國際賽要短期調整過來 (要大量三分出手),可能也會不適應。

有關訪問的報導,可以參考這篇文章,(ptt短網址:fYNWNx)
阿銀除了比賽風格外,也有談到其他議題 (NBA杯、收視率...等),
用Google機器翻譯,比賽風格的部分如下,大致上聯盟有在關切 (認為非三分線問題)。

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Adam Silver looking into critiques of increased 3-point volume
[阿銀調查三分球投籃量增加的批評]

LAS VEGAS -- With the Boston Celtics on pace to shatter the NBA's record for
3-pointers attempted by a team, and with 3s being up across the league this
season, NBA commissioner Adam Silver said Tuesday night the league is
studying the trend.
[隨著波士頓塞爾提克隊有望打破NBA 球隊三分球命中數記錄,並且本賽季三分球
命中數在全聯盟中領先,NBA 總裁阿銀週二晚間表示,聯盟正在研究這一趨勢。]

He also said criticisms of offenses becoming "cookie cutter" and that teams

are copying each other is something he thinks the league s
hould take seriously.
 [他還表示,對進攻的批評變得“千篇一律”,球隊互相模仿,他認為聯盟應
該認真對待這一點。]

"The answer is yes, [we are having] many discussions about the style of
basketball [being played]," Silver told a small group of reporters Tuesday
night before the championship game of the league's second-annual NBA Cup
between the Oklahoma City Thunder and Milwaukee Bucks.
 [「答案是肯定的,我們正在對籃球風格進行很多討論,」阿銀在周二晚上俄克
拉荷馬雷霆隊與密爾瓦基公鹿隊之間的聯盟第二屆NBA 杯冠軍賽前對一小群記者說道。]

"I would not reduce it to a so-called 3-point shooting issue.
[「我不會將其簡化為所謂的三分球問題。]

I think we look more holistically at the skill level on the floor, the
diversity of offense, the fan reception to the game, all of the above.
 [我認為我們更全面地關注球場上的技術水平、進攻的多樣性、球迷對比賽的接
受程度,所有這些。]

"I think the game is in a great place.
[「我認為這場比賽處於一個很棒的位置。]

I love watching the games, and I think we have some of the most skilled
athletes in the world competing -- and it's unfair, I think, to the players
to lump them into categories as 3-point shooters or a midrange shooter or big
man playing under the basket.
 [我喜歡看比賽,而且我認為我們有一些世界上最熟練的運動員參加比賽——
我認為,將他們歸類為三分射手、中距離射手或長人類別,對球員來說是不公平的。]

It's an amazing game."
[這是一場了不起的比賽。]

"Having said that," he continued, "we're constantly having discussions about
whether there are ways to improve stylistically the game on the floor."
 [“話雖如此,”他繼續說道,“我們一直在討論是否有辦法改進場上比賽的風
格。”]

The Celtics are averaging 51.1 attempted 3s per game, which easily would
shatter the record for treys attempted in a season.
 [塞爾提克場均出手51.1次三分球,很容易打破單季三分球出手紀錄。]

Teams across the league are shooting more than ever due to the math of
shooting more 3s, as opposed to midrange 2-point jumpers, bending the sport
in that direction.
[聯盟中的球隊的投籃次數比以往任何時候都多,因為從數學上來說,他們投的三
分球比中距離的兩分跳投更多,這讓這項運動朝著這個方向發展。]

But Silver made it clear any attempt to change things on the fly, such as
moving the 3-point line, is not likely to happen soon.
[但阿銀明確表示,任何即時改變事情的嘗試,例如移動三分線,都不太可能很快
發生。]

He went through some of the complications with making that kind of decision
as well as some of the things the league has done to try to address the
notion of too many teams playing the same way.
[他在做出這樣的決定時經歷了一些複雜的情況,也經歷了聯盟為解決太多球隊,
以同樣方式比賽的問題,而採取的一些措施。]

"Historically, at times, we've moved the 3-point line," Silver said.
[「從歷史上看,我們有時會移動三分線,」阿銀說。]

"I don't think that's a solution here because then, I think when we look at
both the game and the data, I think that may not necessarily do more midrange
jumpers, if that's what people want, but more clogging under the basket.
[「我不認為這是一個解決方案,因為那時,我認為當我們同時考慮比賽和數據時
,我認為這可能不一定會帶來更多的中距離跳投,如果這是人們想要的,但更多的是在籃
下跳木屐舞。]

"Whether there's some tweaks we should make, and my sense is I do think we
should take seriously this notion of more diversity in offense.
[「我們是否應該做出一些調整,我的感覺是,我確實認為我們應該認真對待進攻
更加多樣化的概念。]

I watch as many games as all of you do, and to the extent that it's not so
much a 3-point issue, but that some of the audience, some of the offenses
start to look sort of cookie cutter and teams are copying each other.
[我和你們一樣看了很多比賽,在某種程度上,這並不是一個三分問題,而是一些
觀眾,一些進攻開始看起來有點千篇一律,球隊正在互相模仿。]

I think that's something we should pay attention to."
 [我認為這是我們應該關注的事情。]

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kimigogo: MLB要不是大谷祥平也是很悶啊1F 12/22 20:37
bm1041644: 不是三分的問題 然後講青賽一直投三分2F 12/22 20:46
emptie: 啊複製會贏的策略有啥不對3F 12/22 20:47
love1500274: [新聞] Silver不擔心收視率 有討論比賽球風議題4F 12/22 20:49
richard1003: 觀眾是想看球星不合理進球,不是看大家頭投理三分5F 12/22 20:49
Weasley40: 下次引用不要全部引 滑不完6F 12/22 20:53
好的,已修正,感謝提醒。
richard1003: 投合理三分7F 12/22 20:54
AudiA4Avant: 改成打板才有三分8F 12/22 21:04
※ 編輯: p633 (1.171.235.120 臺灣), 12/22/2024 21:08:43
a1223356: 其實只是內線被壓縮太慘的緣故,讓內線中鋒回到『應有』的地位,讓中鋒內線地位提升,不再用規則綁住內線球員,球只有一顆,自然就會減少三分產量。9F 12/22 21:22
alex0936: 這議題到底要幾篇 不就是電視沒落加上現代娛樂太多造成的收視率下滑嗎
跟三分一點關係都沒有吧  真的讓中鋒去內線龜著也不會比較好12F 12/22 21:28
sony0223098: mlb做了很多改變功勞直接歸給大谷 不太公平16F 12/22 21:32
eineFrage: 變準也是問題之一啦,少了籃板球的肉搏爭搶,變得更單調,17F 12/22 21:33
gogorice: 超級盃收視創紀錄怎麼說?
四大職業運動成長最快的收視率卻跌的最凶19F 12/22 21:33
ship1228: 三分狂熱,一堆角色球員變3D,蹲底角靠賽的21F 12/22 21:34
f73718: 現代nba沒什麼對抗性,你射完換我射,就跟全明星賽一樣,兩邊跑龍套看了陽痿22F 12/22 21:34
Y1999: 每個人都上升就你下滑,還是只有你有網路轉播?24F 12/22 21:37
Qaaaa: 對 nba其實早不能只用體育來看待 更大比例是一場秀所以一堆鄉民說追求魔球合理其實是不合理的 因為沒法秀 就不是nba了25F 12/22 21:42
Lewisssss: 反正Hoop Report的影片說得很清楚了 三分只是其中一個原因 一個商業聯盟去娛樂化搞得像運動會28F 12/22 21:43
kanoeuma: 現在戰術都超級複雜,有球無球都有,就為創造零點幾秒的空檔來出手,只有戰術完全跑不出才會讓球星單打掉。 為追求贏球而打得合理是沒錯,但直觀上就沒有以前球星對決那樣有戲劇性
火箭幫主時期一分一分拿都很合理勝率也高,但我當時完全不會想看火箭的例行賽直播30F 12/22 21:44
a12349743: 三分迷:覺得難看的都是看不懂戰術的業餘仔36F 12/22 21:47
yoyonigo: 戰術迷:不懂就別看 (37F 12/22 21:49
kimigogo: 周星馳的電影都教過怎麼增加收視率了38F 12/22 21:49
SCLPAL: 百戰百勝要來了嗎39F 12/22 21:53
joy462110: 為何不先處理裁判跟判罰尺度40F 12/22 22:08
SSS120329: 加個額度好了 團隊命中10-15顆以上 之後就只算兩分41F 12/22 22:54
ooplus: 有些人就不懂娛樂產業商業聯盟真正主導的是收視啊大三分就大進攻時代的產物 引進大進攻讓nba進入高原期 現在觀眾慢慢開始倦怠正常42F 12/22 22:56
Gxxboator: 現在要覺得球賽好看,就要在每次進球時腦袋馬上倒帶剛剛發生了什麼事,才可以領略到這個運動樂趣在哪的醍醐味,確實會讓收視率下降。45F 12/22 23:24
alittleghost: 底角3分先取消,3分直接少一半48F 12/22 23:38
ooplus: 把規則跟尺度更往fiba看看會不會有改善
有人老是以為肉搏沒人看 其實一定程度的肉搏能帶來的刺激感跟對抗程度搞不好就是現在可以刺激關注度的東西49F 12/22 23:46
chy19890517: 如果要變成一場秀的話,乾脆強化花式上籃的得分好了:大車輪3分、360度大車輪4分……這樣快攻大家都會搞噱頭也不錯==53F 12/23 00:00
gn0028526: 啊所以他也知道大家都在投三分觀賞度會降嗎
太早放棄了吧 還有這麼多三分迷可以培養 不用怕啊56F 12/23 00:46
rony98: 取消防守三秒不知道行不行 防守方內線能禁區站爽爽某種程度上側翼防守對方射手和後衛就能更貼近58F 12/23 01:29
JRSmith: "看懂戰術就覺得好看"這觀點真的很逗
NBA是娛樂業 以為觀眾是來上課學習的60F 12/23 01:36
driftcreator: 取消防守三秒,會降低整體切入進攻的比重,變更難看62F 12/23 04:28
askaa: 真的很難看 我寧願去看mlb63F 12/23 06:29
serval623: 灌籃算三分啊64F 12/23 07:49

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