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※ 引述《KingKingCold (お元気ですか?私元気です)》之銘言：
: ※ 引述《wbsinger (罪愛死奴屄)》之銘言：
: : 蘋果
: : 柯Ｐ稱《屠殺》內容不對 應去查幕後是誰買廣告
: : 作家伊森．葛特曼（Ethan Gutmann）的著作《屠殺》一書，近期由作家吳祥輝的出版社
: : 「蝴蝶蘭文創」引進在台出版，今天出版社也在《自由時報》刊登全版廣告摘錄書中內容
: : ，書中指柯文哲帶病人到中國進行器官移植，且確知所有器官都來自法輪功。由於柯文哲
: : 4年前已針對此事澄清，對於4年後《屠殺》一書的內容再度成為焦點，柯今早受訪表示，
: : 4年前他在電視辯論會最後一秒把作者葛特曼的澄清信函拿出來，他強調這個事情的真相
: : ，因為做器官移植是很專業的東西，這都很好查，只要問台灣有做器官移植醫生都知道，
: : 那個報導是不對的。
: : 事實上，柯文哲4年前選市長時，《蘋果》曾獨家報導《屠殺》這本書的內容，當時柯文
: : 哲在與國民黨對手連勝文的辯論會中，出示葛特曼的澄清信，以表清白。柯文哲今早也說
: : ，當時作者葛特曼答應，如果書籍有再版時會修改，但問題是這本書賣得很爛，根本不會
: : 再版，所以出版社就買那本沒有改的版本。柯表示剛跟法務局長袁秀慧在討論這件事，袁
: : 問要不要提告，柯則說這就是在引誘他去告，因為這(買報紙廣告)絕對不是吳祥輝自己出
: : 錢來刊登廣告，這版面要一百萬，重點是後面出錢的人是誰，應該要去查，吳祥輝只是打
: : 手，只是出錢辦事。
: : 媒體問柯，這是否為抹紅手段，柯表示後面出錢的人要去查，吳輝只是打手。
: : 媒體問柯，連器官移植都要扯到兩岸一家親，是否覺得太偏頗，柯表示台灣的選舉就是這
: : 樣泥巴戰，他會再跟律師和競選團隊討論看要如何處理，柯並要媒體去追吳祥輝，看幕後
: : 出錢刊廣告的是誰。（張博亭／台北報導）
: : https://i.imgur.com/LV08Zhd.jpg
: : 台北市長柯文哲今早主持「107年忠烈陣、公亡將士暨烈士秋祭大典」。張博亭攝
: : https://tw.appledaily.com/new/realtime/20180903/1422964
: https://newtalk.tw/news/view/2014-11-27/54119
: 葛特曼律師回函 澄清柯P沒參與器官仲介
: 新頭殼newtalk | 翁嫆琄 台北報導
: 發布 2014.11.27 | 15:20
:
: 葛特曼律師回函中文翻譯：
: 請諒解我們的回應時間，超過了您當初於十一月四號信中，我們所承諾的三週期限數日。
: 我們對於柯醫師的疑慮非常認真地看待，且我們已經詳閱所有書中相關頁面並檢視當時撰
: 寫依據的面談紀錄與文件。
: 我們認為，在台灣媒體上全面性的誤解與魯莽的指控，是因為Gutmann書中的英文與相關
: 頁面被翻譯成中文過後，因為語言與文化的差異所造成的理解問題。
: 我們相信所有的誤解都會在中文版的The Slaughter中被澄清，其中會包含未收錄在英文
: 版中的序言，會直接回應柯文哲醫師的疑慮。
: 為了讓事情更明朗，我們必須要指出，對於書中225頁的理解，完全沒有英語語系的評論
: 家，有著跟第一語言是華語的台灣讀者有著相同解釋。
: 在您給Gutmann先生的信件中，您對於255頁的敘述「所有器官都是來自於法輪功」有特別
: 的疑慮。
: 這本書有透過三位專業讀者同儕審查，且經Prometheus冗長的內部編輯過程，不僅包含文
: 字內容，更須檢視作者的筆記、訪談的錄音帶以及電子溝通。
: 沒有任何英語系的讀者會將標題或是文字內容解讀為，柯文哲可從類似私人「器官仲介」
: 交易的形式取得法輪功器官，只會解讀為柯文哲醫師是被告知資訊的。
: 迄今沒有任何英語系讀者曾經將柯文哲醫師解讀為器官仲介者。
: 迄今也沒有任何英語系讀者相信，柯文哲醫師曾試圖自行購買器官或是以任何形式參與營
: 利行為。相反地，多數讀者讚揚柯醫師對於調查的貢獻。審查人員們均一致地如此回應，
: 就像是觀眾們在華盛頓特區National Endowment for Democracy中舉辦的The Slaughter
: 書本發表會的反應一樣。
: 我們相信語言、翻譯以及在台北市市長選舉中激昂的政治環境，會導致大家誤會作者的意
: 思並讓事情變得更模糊。
: 然而我們將全力確保在中文版的The Slaughter會越準確越好。
: 總而言之，我們重申我們認為台灣媒體對於柯文哲醫師以及Gutmann先生的對待是不公平
: 的。Gutmann先生相信且我們認為他的書所闡述的是，柯文哲醫師的舉止高尚，柯文哲醫
: 師從來不曾執行器官仲介，他也從來不曾透過中國器官市場進行獲利，且他對於揭露目前
: 仍在中國進行的醫療犯罪行為有著重大國際級的貢獻，柯文哲醫師的行為是令人驕傲的。
: =============================================================================
: Re: Your Letter to Mr. Gutmann on October
: Please excuse us for having exceeded by a few days the three week time period
: within which we had agreed to expand upon our earlier letter to you of
: November 4.
: We take Dr. Ko's concerns very seriously and we have reviewed the relevant
: pages in his book together with our own records of interviews and notes on
: which those pages were based.
: We have concluded that the entire misunderstanding and the reckless
: accusations which have appeared in the Taiwan media would appear to be based
: on language and cultural differences between the English in Mr. Gutmann's
: book, on the one hand, and the understanding of the relevant pages when the
: latter have been rendered into Chinese.
: We believe that all misunderstandings will be clarified in the Chinese
: edition of The Slaughter, which will contain a special preface not included
: in the English edition. This preface will address Dr. Ko's concerns directly.
: For greater clarity, we would like to point out that no English speaking
: reviewer of the book has understood page 255 in the way it has apparently
: been understood in Taiwan by readers whose first language is Chinese.
: In your letter to Mr. Gutmann, you specifically mentioned the caption on page
: 255 reading "All the Organs will come from Falun Gong" as a particular
: concern.
: This book was peer-reviewed by three expert readers and subjected to a
: lengthy internal editing process by Prometheus. This review included not only
: the text itself, but also the author's notes, interview tapes, and electronic
: communications.
: No English-speaking reader has understood the caption or the text to mean
: anything other than that Dr. Ko was being given information, rather than
: making a statement about the availability of Falun Gong organs in some sort
: of personal "organ broker" deal.
: No English-speaking reader to date has understood for one moment that Dr. Ko
: was acting as an "organ broker".
: No English-speaking reader to date believes that Dr. Ko was trying to
: purchase organs himself or was in any way involved in any sort of
: profit-making venture.
: On the contrary, most readers have praised Dr. Ko for his contribution to the
: investigation. Reviewers have responded similarly, as did the audience at the
: author's book launch at the National Endowment for Democracy in Washington DC.
: We believe that language, translation, and the heated environment of the
: political campaign for the mayoral race in Taipei may be playing a role in
: misconstruing the author's intentions and clouding the issue.
: Nonetheless we are interested in ensuring that the Chinese edition of The
: Slaughter is as accurate as possible.
: In conclusion, we reiterate that we think the Taiwan media has been unfair in
: its treatment of both Dr. Ko and Mr. Gutmann. Mr. Gutmann believes, and we
: think his book demonstrates, that Dr. Ko has acted honourably, that he has
: never been an organ broker, that he has never sought profit through China's
: organ marketing, and that he has contributed significantly to the
: international effort to expose the medical crimes which continue to be
: perpetrated in China.
: Yours Truly
: Clive Ansley
: =============================================================================
: 蝴蝶蘭文創董事長吳祥輝先生，
: 你要賣書，結果賣書賣到輸柯文哲，
: 你不爽，你忿忿，你妒恨，這我可以理解。
: 你想從負面行銷殺出生路，
: 替你拿到的中文版權打廣告，
: 所以消費一個正在爭取連任的台北市長這我也能理解。
: 但是，請有格調一點好嗎??
: 你的中文版將來會不會依照原作者要求，附上幫柯文哲澄清的序言我是不清楚，
: 我只知道很多柯黑都跟你一樣裝瞎子扮失憶扮得很開心，
: 裝得好像四年前那場辯論會，
: 柯文哲在面對連勝文交叉結辯針對此假料的指控時，
: 從自己口袋中掏出這封作者律師代表作者提供的闢謠澄清信從來不曾發生一樣。
: 非常地有臉。
: 很多柯黑很愛靠北柯文哲四年下來變了，已經不是四年前的柯文哲了。
: 但是變的，真得是柯文哲嗎??
: 四年下來，柯文哲依然還是那個嗡來嗡去，
: 從創傷急救部一路嗡到松智路的柯文哲，不是嗎??
: 我怎麼看，變的都比較像是柯黑：
: 才短短四年時間，
: 他們已經變成四年前的羅淑蕾跟連勝文的形狀了。
: 沒想到我有生之年可以看到綠的為了黑柯，
: 回到未來重複連勝文四年前的抹黑，
: 超越時空愛上連Ｄ，
: 愛上這種千年一遇的抹黑不分藍綠一家親床頭吵四年後床尾交合的大戲，
: 果然選舉期，永遠都是台灣最富有娛樂性的季節。
: 綠色國民黨，
: 你們真的是好樣的。


Gutmann本人有在網站(https://goo.gl/dKvVd9)提供相關文件資料，
畫面右下角可以下載一個壓縮檔包含律師說明函、英文版書籍內容、等...

以下為英文版翻譯內容

  "You really don't understand, do you? You can do whatever you want in China.
Cut someone up. Cut their dick off if you like."
  He showed his teeth as he presented me with a smile that wasn't pleasant.
This was unsettling. Yet my real fear was not that he would call me a stupid
foreigner again but that he would shut down the interview. Ihad no choice but
to be perfectly candid:
  "Look, I am not from a government agency. I can't make you talk about this,
I'm just a writer. I have no power to posecute you or cause trouble for your
practice. And I know that you care about your patients. By going to the
mainland for tranplants, you are saving lives."
  Leeshai jumped in:
  "I've just come from Israel. The governement has banned organ tourism from
a legally executed criminal or a prisoner of conscience."
  "Do you want that to happen here?" I added. " It will, if it's not clened up
... So is it true? Aren't prisoners of conscience  -- Falun Gong, perhaps
others, being harvesterd?"
  What happened next was something I thought only occured in the movies. Ko's
body seemed to simply retract, his jaw, his shoulders collapsing. His eyes ga-
zing at the emptiness of the wall, he fell into a barely audible hiss. "Yes,"
Dr. Ko said, " Yes, they are doing that. Yes, it's true."

Gutmann: “你真的不知道，對吧? 你可以在中國大陸做任何你想做的事情，就像是支解
某人、你喜歡甚至能切除某人陰莖(dick)”。
他(柯文哲)露出了尷尬的笑容，這使得我有一些擔心。我擔心的不是他會叫我是個愚蠢的
外國人，而是他終止這個訪談，但我沒有選擇我只能盡我所能直白地說:

Leeshai: “我剛從以色列回來。以色列政府已經禁止捐贈器官送到中國大陸，因為將器
官送往大陸根本不可能減少當地合法從罪犯及良心犯取得器官的數量。”


接下來的事情我想只會在電影中發生，柯文哲的身軀後縮、下巴以及肩膀鬆垮下落、眼睛
望著空蕩蕩的牆壁用著微弱的氣音回答:
Ko: “是的，沒錯，他們做著這樣的事情，這是真的”。


==================================================

A few years before we showed up at his office, Dr. Ko began thinking about go-
ing to the mainland to accquire human organs. It wasn't a pleasant decision;
he was a conscientious and careful surgeon, not a gambler. But the waiting pe-
riod for a liver or even a kidney in Taiwan could be as long as two or three
years. Time enough for many of his elderly patients to simply waste away. And
if Chinese hospitals could perform the soup-to-nuts services they claimed on
the web --- donor to order, tissue match, surgery, observation, drug therapy,
recovery ---- patients who could barely be loaded onto a plane might come ba-
ck as human beings who had successfully digeted their airline meal, weren't
sure they actually needed the wheelchair, and tearfully hugged their grand-
children. Taiwan was a death sentence: mainland Chinese hospitals were bla-
tantly advertising a tissuematched organ within a week or perhaps two.




He didn't particularly want to look behind the mainland curtain, that's all.
Yes, you could do anything you liked in China. And castration wasn't all that
different from what he was trying to do; it was common knowledge that the org-
ans were being taken from executed prisoners on death row. So if his job was
to ride his gragile patients into the wild, wild east and bring them back
alive, okay, but even that wasn't certain; the criminal lifestyle led to a
high probability of drug use or promiscuous sex. Hepatitis, just for starters,
was rampant. Labor camp led to stress and malnutrition. Any, or perhaps all,
of these medical histories would now be given a second life in his patients'
bodies. And what was the recourse if something went wrong in this highly com-
petitive business fought out in a legal no-man's land? Nor were his patients
rich. Taiwan was still an emerging tiger; his patients had lived intersting
lives to be sure, but modest oones. A glance at the web established the
foreigner price of $62000 (US) for a kidney. Because the Chinese regarded the
Taiwanese as alick foreigners wearing a Chinese mask, that would be his price,
too. Yet native Chinese were paying half that or even less. This injustice
gnawed at him. Somehow, where so many Taiwanese businessmen before him had
failed. Dr. Ko would have to convince the mainland doctors he was not a
foreign devil but a brother.



Dr. Ko went to China and meticulously worked thtough the cicklist of intimacy
with his medical colleagues. The go-to-hell banquet. The karaoke bar. The
cognac followed by the Mao-Tai. The subtle flattery and the jokes about his
accent. And when the ritual was truly finished, and everyone had sobered up,
the Chinese surgeons summoned him.
     you are one of us. You are a brother. So we will give you the family
     price. But we are going to do more for you than that. We noted your
     worries and concerns about organ quality. And we trust your discretion.
     So you will have no worries for your patients. They will receive nothing
     but the best; all the organs will come from Falun Gong. These people
     may be a little farcical, but you know? They don't drink. They don't
     smoke. Many of them are young, and they all practice healthy Chinses
     Qi-Gong. Soon your patients --- they will be young and healthy, too.


更多，我們知道你擔心器官的品質，我們也信任你會保密，所以你不需要為你的病人擔心
。他們會得到最好的器官：所有的器官都來自法輪功。這些人雖然有些可笑滑稽
(farcical)，但是你知道嗎？他們不喝酒、不抽菸。很多都是年輕人而且這些年輕人很多
都練氣功。不久之後你的病人也會變得年輕健康。＂

And Dr. Ko smiled and thanked them politely, and the process began. But at the
point of victory. Ko had felt no relief, only something that gnawed at him
far worse than before. Something he could not speak of.

柯文哲禮貌性地感謝對方，這件事情也因此開始運作。但是在成功以後柯醫師並沒有
感覺如釋重負，反而有些事情更加的捆擾著他，而他卻不能夠說出來。

Even as he set up appointments for his patients on the mainland, Dr. Ko kept
thinking that there must be a way to rationalize the system, to apply some
oversight, some sort of technical fix. Now that the mainland doctors had blood
on their hands there was no obvious path to medical reform. An open discussion
would require dredging up the past. The patry would never allow the slaughter
of prisoners of conscience to be revealed to the world --- in fact, his Chi-
nese surgeon friends had already let him know discreetly that the harvesting
of Falun Gong would be put on hold as the Olympics approaced. But don't worry,
they reassured him, when the Olympics are over it will start up agian! Perhaps
the way forward was to use that brief hiatus as an opening to implement good
bureaucratic hygiene, something to raise the ocst of keeping secrets?



There was plenty of talk about consent forms -- making the prisoner sign a
release donating his or her organ to the nation "as a final penance" or some-
thing like that. But the surgeon knew the labor-camp administrators could get
anyone to sign anything. Reform had to start with the doctors'conscience and
sense of self-preservation. On his own time, Dr. Ko labored to create a na-
tional database system, a mandatory elecronic form just for the surgeon. For
every organ acquired, the doctor would have to fill in details on individual
donor health, medical background, blood type, address, arrest record, every-
thing. Do. Ko moved us over to his desktop computer, and we looked it over. It
was beautiful actually -- simple, clear, mainland-user friendly--- something
even a barefoot doctor could use.



Maybe he could even have sold the sytem to the Chinese medical establishment,
even received some sort of compensation, and yet -- that gnaw again -- even
if the mainland doctors adopted the system. "you would only remove 95 percent
of the problem." Ko said. shaking his head.

或許他可以將這套系統賣到大陸去，或許他能得到一些補償，但是那個困擾又再次浮現，
儘管大陸醫生採用了這個系統，柯文哲搖著頭說那也只能解決百分之95的問題。

Anyway, they rejected it. It was obvious in retrospect that it was okay for
the mainland doctors to run a sort of infomal auction for organ trading, done
thtough e-mails and discrete online user groups, but Ko's forms would either
cut out too many donors from the systems, create too much of a level playing
field, or perhaps simply leave too much of an electronic trail. It was too
late in the day, and it was sickening: the rejection was passed on to Dr. Ko
with the respect you give to a distant cousin who doen't quite get it.



Dr.Ko was whispering now: "But something should be done, something sould be
done."

柯醫師喃喃自語: “但是有些事情比須完成，有些事情必須完成”

A year or so after the database was rejected, Dr.Ko gave an anonymous inter-
view to an American writer -- well, we thought it was anonymous anyway -- and
the surgeon was banned from the mainland.

當該建議被拒絕後一年，柯醫師給了一個美國作家匿名訪談的機會(恩…不管如何我們當
時是這樣想)而同時柯醫師也被大陸給封殺了。



以上全文, 請搭配律師說明及影片說明,

最後, 當我寫信給Mr. Gutmann說明要翻譯此內容的時候, 他建議我翻譯他網站上面的
說明影片, 但是他也提到我們在一個自由的國度, 所以我可以翻譯, 他只希望
我能中立公平地翻譯。

所以任何翻譯該網站的內容原則上我想是不會冒犯到他本人的, 不用擔心被告



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